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| Scar | Jan 24 2011, 11:35 PM Post #346 |
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Goodness you're an imbecile. Not that it would have mattered, I think he voted you out anyways. So, question, can I rely on you at the next vote? I think everyone wants Mulan. Like....EVERYONE. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 12:26 AM Post #347 |
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He did vote me out, and rely on me for what? Are you implying we should do something else? |
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 12:36 AM Post #348 |
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No sorry, I'm just like being a neurotic little mess over here. Basically here's what I expect Pan: both sides should theoretically want our votes this round, and we should control the votes. I think there's a lot of potential for you and I to both be in the end if we play our cards right. I think that if you and I vote with the villainesses this round, it opens the game up to us. We could use that offer you had from WQ to form a "secret" F3, and ride out this thing all the way to F3 or do any of many different options that could arise from that. Either way, with double boots on the horizon, I think the way we best keep ourselves protected is to promise loyalty to the villainesses. In the event of a double boot arena round, four names go into the arena, and I think without firming up a deal, you and I will both go in. I know you can run this info back to just about anyone and probably fuck me over, but I think this is the opportunity both of us have been waiting for to get ourselves into the endgame. Now you'll probably say that you already had figured all of this out my darling, but I wanted to finally say something since neither of us has been 100% truly open with each other since around F20. I think this is when we could change the game. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 01:28 AM Post #349 |
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Ok first of all, there's absolutely no reason for me to run this to anyone and fuck you over. ![]() I agree, and me getting votes from my entire (basically) old tribe tonight works to our advantage so much. I had no clue Medusa didn't want me out all this time, she mentioned that when she PMed me during the voting period to let me know she would keep me in a tie.I like your plan for tomorrow night and honestly, I have all the reason in the world to vote with the Villainesses this round. Why would I flip back immediately the round after they all voted me out? ![]() WQ does keep hinting that she doesn't talk to the other Villainesses much and Maleficent said something about me being "at least Final 4" on her side now. Do you think she was referring to WQ? It seemed weird and I didn't buy it but I definitely noticed it. I don't necessarily know if we should stick with the Villainesses all the way to the end though if that's what you were implying but for tomorrow night yes, and then going into the following night we should at least keep up the impression that we will but we can get further into that once tomorrow night happens and we're still here. I was a little too confident going into tonight and look what almost happened, so ::crosses fingers:: |
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 02:08 AM Post #350 |
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Ok don't log off if you're still there, I have just returned and have much to say on this post. First off, how relieving. I've been worried I may have just ended my game while I was at the gym. Let me take a moment to write up an apt response. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 02:12 AM Post #351 |
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:lol: I am not the type to freak out and start throwing someone under the bus out of nowhere, especially right after they save me with their double vote. ![]() I actually feel a lot better about our position now than I did before the night started because it's more defined. |
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 02:46 AM Post #352 |
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That's what I was going for. I was sick of this dancing around helping each other thing. Since merge began we've both been doing little things to both hide our closeness and protect each other, and so it's clear we wanted to work together, why not just actually say it? After tonight, it's become increasingly clear that we're not at the top of either of our alliances. I mean, I've sort of known that for a while, but you gotta do what you gotta do. It wasn't until tonight that I was sure we were both in the same place. Now let me begin talking about how it is with the villainesses. I think me and Medusa are actually quite close. Honestly, with the exception of you and Mal, she's the only person I could stomach in talking to since F12. She's a delight in PMs, and as an ally she's pretty much as good as they come. With Mal, it's different. I know she only trusts me because she's known me the longest and I've sucked up to her for quite some time. Apparently today Pinocchio forwarded her a PM where I kind of rope "Mal, Cinderella, and Mulan" into three boots who it would be fine to see leave today. So I think right now her faith in me is dwindling, which is fine because without me, I think she doesn't have numbers to do any damage. But she is smart. And Mal and Medusa are very close, like you said weeks ago. Mal is the strategist and Medusa is her backup, the one that gets it all done. But don't get me wrong, Medusa is brilliant as well (like when she freaked Pinocchio into throwing me, Herc, Ariel, and Mulan under the bus, that was a great move). Both are huge jury threats, and don't worry I'm not dumb enough to think we should go to F5 with them. Although, I must say, it will be difficult to remove them, especially with Medusa's idol. WQ is a different story. They never liked her, and they tagged her along as a vote for essentially the whole game. Medusa has been DYING to boot her and apparently would have when Ratigan left. Now that could be a lie, and they could all three be really close, but WQ is not at all like them in conversation and kind of lacks self awareness. And they always exclude her from any longterm plans with me. With WQ, it's like...I don't think she has a connection to the villainesses. There was a period of time on the other tribe where they said they wanted to vote her out. Up until Shere Khan started going for her, she really didn't seem to want anything to do with the villainesses. When Mal says "you'll at least make F4" she could mean anything: A) She's going to boot me. She's going to boot Medusa (who I think anyone would be crazy to go up against even though I fucking love her to death)C) She's going to boot WQ (but I doubt this one more than A or B because honestly WQ is a total goat in this game) So, with that on the table here's what I think. If we can get WQ to agree to sit down, shut up and come to the F3 with us we should. If Medusa loses after F9, we vote her out. Then we go to the F4 with whomever we please, but you, me, and WQ are there. Preferably someone who can't beat you or me in a challenge. The one reason I suggest going beyond this upcoming round with the villainesses is because: A) Mulan, Herc, Cinderella, and Pinocchio are afraid of the villainesses, they'd make great shields. Once threats start leaving, we could find ourselves in a minority where people want to get rid of threats, so keeping threats for a while makes us valuable players.So tonight I say Mulan and then we reevaluate and see which way the sides want to go. I don't think people will put us together until we're actually somewhat safe, so that's what I'm hoping for. Your thoughts? |
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 03:02 AM Post #353 |
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Mickey thinks we're interesting. I hate mice. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 03:05 AM Post #354 |
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OMG so much here to respond to :lol: The only reason I said maybe only sticking with them for one round was for some reason I'm expecting a double boot that'd put us at Final 7. I'm going to have to digest this and respond to you in the morning because it's getting incredibly late, but I do like where this all is going. ![]() I agree we have to take Medusa out at whatever point she's not immune and doesn't have the idol, she's beat any of us in the end. She was a lot easier to talk to tonight (during the voting period, once she'd nominated me) so I now see where you're coming from with the ~Medusalove~. Before, our convos were always just forced with no strategy talk at all. Oh and I thought we already were working together pretty well :huh:, being subtle about it til now imo was the right thing to do. It would've been destructive for either of us to flip on our original tribes right away and/or until something like this presented itself. Otherwise it would've been like SCAR FLIPPED FOR PAN or PAN FLIPPED FOR SCAR and all the red alarms would've gone off and we might've been in a Herc/Mulan situation. ![]() But goodnight and I'll definitely respond in full tomorrow. It's just way too late right now for me.
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 03:11 AM Post #355 |
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Oh this is delightful. Simply grand. Oh Pan, I've been holding back quite a bit (I think you've told me more about you dynamics than I have about mine, but perhaps I'm wrong), and yes, I believe we've made a good decision being subtle until now. Had we made any effort to save each other, we definitely would have been targeted. We started talking quite early, even before she betrayed the villains, we had an agreement to watch out for each other. I think it's partly her fault that I wasn't taken out when Shere Khan went out. Anyways, sweet dreams in Neverland, and here's to a beautiful (and unknown) union. Respond in full tomorrow. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 01:44 PM Post #356 |
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On the Mal/Medusa paragraph, not much for me to add but that fleshes things out. Did Mal let you know about the forwarded PM? Or Medusa told you that Mal got it? And do we know when the idol expires? I couldn't find where that's posted. Right, WQ is way less skilled socially than the other 2 and it's apparent as soon as you talk to her 1-on-1. QoH said the same thing about WQ being an extra vote for Mal/Medusa and I believe it, though I'd be shocked if they don't have some sort of deal anyway. Whatever connection she has with them can't be all that solid and she has to know she can't beat them against a jury. She wouldn't have a case to argue. I'll see if Mal elaborates at all on what she meant by the F4 thing but I doubt she trusts me enough yet to do that. ![]() We definitely do have to try solidifying something with WQ and I'll get on that as soon as I talk to her today. Mulan is I think definitely the way to go for tonight and if she wins, then Hercules. I don't want another one of those situations popping up again, that was an absolute NIGHTMARE.
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 02:23 PM Post #357 |
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Medusa told me Mal knew, then I confronted Mal about it. It's the message Pinocchio forwarded her. The idol I believe expires at F6. You can probably get that info out of Cinderella too. I'm not sure if it expires prior to the F6 round or after it. WQ has to have a f3 deal with the villainesses, but like you said she can't win against them, and if she doesn't know that, she shouldn't be playing this game. And yeah, get on the WQ thing. See if she wants a deal with just you, and say something like, now you have no one in the game you can trust except her and you were wondering if she'd want to watch out for you. The plan should be: Survivor (single boot): Mulan Survivor (double boot): Mulan/Hercules Big Brother (single boot): Mulan/Herc nommed, Mulan booted Big Brother (double boot): Mulan/Herc, Pinocchio/Cinderella nommed, Mulan/Cinderella booted Arena (single boot): Mulan/Herc voted in Arena (double boot): Mulan/Herc, Pinocchio/Cinderella voted in Hopefully that works for everyone, I can't imagine why it wouldn't and it keeps us safe as long as none of them win power, and I mean, they simply can't, they suck at challenges. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 02:32 PM Post #358 |
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Oh god please no BB round with that many noms. I feel like one of us could so easily get screwed on one of those. We'd likely end up having the votes to stay in almost any situation, but that's scary as hell.
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| Scar | Jan 25 2011, 02:36 PM Post #359 |
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Yeah, I thought about how we'd need votes to stay as, if Medusa wins, we'd probably be the backups if two vetos are used. But even then, in a Herc vs. me and Cinderella vs. you (or a nomination like that) there would be six votes for each of the pairs. For you, Pinocchio/Mulan/Herc would vote for you, for me Cinderella/Pinocchio/Mulan would vote for me. Then a villainess that won chooses who goes home, and I can't imagine they'd screw us then. I'm more concerned with how hectic a double boot arena round would be if one of them won immunity. |
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| Peter Pan | Jan 25 2011, 02:49 PM Post #360 |
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My hope is that there'd just be one Arena that 3 people go into, but otherwise EEK. |
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I had no clue Medusa didn't want me out all this time, she mentioned that when she PMed me during the voting period to let me know she would keep me in a tie.
She's going to boot Medusa (who I think anyone would be crazy to go up against even though I fucking love her to death)

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