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Toto
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Oh ho ho, I see this oasis is bustling with activity. So many things to address. Before I begin quoting people, I would like to say that I find Charlotte's single "hello" post and Inazuma's complete absence quite alarming. I will soon have to consider them lynch candidates. Funkfreed is also behaving rather troublesomely...

Gan Fall
 
Weasel-boy and fellow elder, what exactly are you trying to accomplish with these lynches?

My good fellow, it is merely a single vote, not a lynch, and in a respectable group of 19. That you would be so unsettled or annoyed by it is interesting indeed. And I dare say we have accomplished exponentially more than your grumpy posts of agreement, disagreement, or summation have. I have half the mind to think you are irked because I have hit upon something, even if for the "wrong" reason. Then again, I'm so old that half a mind might be more than I still possess.

Salome
 
I'm confussssed by what exactly issss going on here. I don't particulary trusssst Johnny, but can you at leasssst elaborate on thissss?
Merry
 
All of these supposed subtle jokes, references, and clues that are flying over my head are making me feel like I'm missing something.

The fact that you (and others) are confused in any way is already proving my point that, at best, Johnny's post was confusing filler. But since nobody has elaborated so far, I shall explain. I was told to have "faith" in Laki because Johnny is implying she is BellisarioFaith. Something which has no business being said for any reason or any context.

Porsche
 
The presence of a Third Party is possible with this many people... but we don't have anything to go on that there would be one for now. So I wouldn't put too much thought into that. The priority is finding the Mafia, because we at least know they exist.

Call me a silly old man, but humor me in explaining how we know for certain that the Mafia exists at all? It is the likely case by far, but I have no reason to assume it by default. Mr. Pizarro color coded them for us quite nicely, but then are we also to assume some players are bananas?

Boa Sandersonia
 
If I was Mafia I wouldn't fish so obviously.

I have some conflicting feelings about this, mercy me. I cannot find a good justification for any player, regardless of alliance, to be pulling this on the first day. I do not see how it can pay off, unless you have evil intentions and some poor less-seasoned adventurer bites. Perhaps what worries me the most is that your little list includes items that can easily be associated with standard power roles. Doing that intentionally seems very treacherous indeed.

Ohm
 
asume then town that there is a single person as a third party unless I correct myself

I hope your arrogance mellows with age, my fellow. I do not know if it is your roleplaying that brings about these attitudes or something else, and that is a problem. Regardless, do not make such absolute claims without backing them up. It is scummy to do so. If you know something that others do not, but are unwilling to share, then do not state such claims to begin with. You already have people on your case, and I do not disagree with them!

My, I will respond to Johnny in a separate post. It deserves special treatment, and I need to rest my bones a bit after so much writing.
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Dorry
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Yes, how do you know how many papers there are, Ohmy?

I don't support lynching based on things pulled from thin air...but when something begins to solidify, my mind may be changed...
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Johnny
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Yes [b[Toto[/b], just ignore everything I've posted.

And for someone so concerned about keeping identities secret, you sure wasted no time blabbing out the player's identity I hinted at. In full knowledge that many players didn't catch on to the reference.
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Johnny
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Woops silly me, you're coming with a response soon.

Doesn't change the hypocrisy charge. So add that to your list of things to respond to.
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Keimi

Oh good, people have started to notice Inazuma was missing too. I was beginning to worry that him not getting called out could make him Mafia. I noticed his absence a while ago but ignored in order to observe the situation. Which leads me to who it was that did point him out.
Richie
Sep 28 2016, 09:05 PM
With so many players, I really tend to forget. Didn't notice until now that Inazuma hasn't said anything yet.

This post to me feels like you're trying to remind us that Inazuma exists, but neglecting to call him out on it or press him for action. Which in my book is rather scummy.

@Ohm, not sure whether you're arrogant or scummy. My gut tells me arrogant, but you're certainly painting a target on yourself.
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Elizabello II
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Haredas
Sep 28 2016, 01:34 AM
So you propose we wait for the last 2 and if they don't show we lynch them but if they do we vote no lynch?

Unless anyone has a good reason why this would be bad for our town adventurer party I support this.

Statistically we have a higher chance of lynching an innocent than a mafia, and that would just give them a head start on killing us all.
Any reason you crossed out town? As far as I know adventurer includes everybody (aside from spectators/mods) so I find this a curious correction to make...
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Johnny
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@Ohm, siiiigh what the hell are you doing? I was just starting to like you too.

Since so many of you guys are doing this, let me try too.



Wooooooooo I'm being haunted. It's a ghost. Wooooo. I'm afraid I can't disclose any more information till Day 7 though.


Isn't that annoying?
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Haredas
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I lost some of the quotes I think =s

Johnny
Sep 28 2016, 06:00 PM

Dorry has said a whole lot of nothing in my opinion. Says we should leave the killing to the mafia, but also says we should lynch someone.
Haredas I'm not sensing too much scummy behavior yet, but he brought up statistics, which makes him lose points in my book.
Sandersonia's shopping list is... strange. Why would you do that? If you're a power townie, you're asking to be killed instead of helping the town. Are you fishing for townie roles? or 3rd parties?
Funkfreed is... also displaying worrisome behavior. Soft-lynching Nero and only holding back because of the possibility of rp...which Nero himself said is no excuse. Then there's the whole "keep me alive for 4-5 days" thing that makes no sense to say. Also barely answering questions.


Aphelandra and Funkfreed have brought up the possibility of a fool, something I hadn't considered, which if it is Brulee, would be a very short game.

anyways adressing this first: sorry for bringing up statistics but as a scientist (I am not RPing about this) I think of most things as logic and numbers. The way my mind works is "without evidence we have a much higher chance of lynching a townie than a mafia -> mislynch would combine with the mafia murdering one of us in the town being down 2 players -> pushing for a lynch seems either foolish or pro-mafia both options are bad"


Toto
Sep 28 2016, 06:45 AM
Johnny
Sep 28 2016, 02:32 AM
Well you should have faith in Laki at least.
Oh, dear. There are so many things wrong with this statement. If taken at face value, you are telling me already to trust someone. This is problematic, even if only for the possibility of the misinterpretation. But clearly this is not what you mean. You are being clever. Unfortunately, it means you are outing someone's identity. Oh, how that goes against the spirit of this game, and the decision to move off-forum. Moreover, you state it with such confidence. Why should I not suspect that perhaps your certainty comes from being a partner in crime of this player, and you have shared your identities amongst yourselves? Oh, this is too much for this old man to bear.

Vote Lynch: Johnny

^Toto seems quick to push for a lynch. I honestly assumed it was a joke since he was earlier talking about asking cops if they were cops.



Elizabello II
Sep 28 2016, 10:57 PM

You're focus has been almost exclusively on players that are not active (aside from some small talk). Why is that? Wouldn't it be much more interesting to talk with the players that are there? I look forward to hearing more from you. Some topics could be:
- Boa's behavior (role fishing, smart move, dumb move, town, mafia or third party)?
- Funkfreed (just rp'in, useful, not-relevant, entertaininng, consistent, contradictory, alarming)?

I had no clues to form theories previously
a) I focused on the not active players because I figure inactive players are either:
1) Town members who are not helping the town. aka dead weight.
2) Mafia trying to lay low
2.5) Not making the game any more fun but being a distraction.
So I figure we should get rid of the inactive people now while we don't have any clues, even if they are town they are not gonna help us.
b) I have no idea what Boa is up to I am puzzled can't figure out if town or mafia pretending to be "obvious town"
c) Funkfreed seems to be posting a lot of fluff. He(it?) could just be played by someone who really likes to RP but I also feel like it is an act to seem like someone helping who is not really doing all that much.
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Elizabello II
Sep 28 2016, 11:52 PM
Haredas
Sep 28 2016, 01:34 AM
So you propose we wait for the last 2 and if they don't show we lynch them but if they do we vote no lynch?

Unless anyone has a good reason why this would be bad for our town adventurer party I support this.

Statistically we have a higher chance of lynching an innocent than a mafia, and that would just give them a head start on killing us all.
Any reason you crossed out town? As far as I know adventurer includes everybody (aside from spectators/mods) so I find this a curious correction to make...
Sorry I was just making small talk/a joke correcting myself since technically we are not a town since we are some kind of explorer group inside a cave. By the game's design we are "adventurers" not townspeople.

I honestly see Brulee as the most shady player since they logged in and didn't really do anything while others I gave the assumption it might be timezone issues.

Toto is the next most scummy since I feel like he has been pushing for a lynch from the start which I personally believe to be a pro-mafia action unless the target is being scummy or inactive.
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Haredas
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going to eat will be back to answer any questions people have for me in a bit.
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