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Day 1 - Darkness Falls
Topic Started: Sep 28 2016, 12:00 AM (6,806 Views)
Elizabello II
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Interesting developments. Nice to have Brulee posting. Not nice to have Inazuma claim to be day silenced. Too many unanswered questions on when it happened and what the cause and motivation would have been, aside from potentially introducing troubling mechanisms.
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Aphelandra
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All I wanna be is the one who gets to see a giant woman
Charlotte Brûlée
Sep 29 2016, 12:51 PM
Let me pose you a question Aphelandra, you say "The wagon against Inazuma had little potential, and a wagon building on Brulee wouldn't have moved at all. Pardon me for thinking that getting 9 other people to follow your lead against a potential fool wouldn't move; I'll remember for next time."

Does this mean the only reason you arent progressing me further is simply that you believe I am the embodiment of the tarot card, and thus is represented in my stand, the fool.?
Where do your suspicions lie if you say Inazuma is obviously not a worthy lynch at this point in time?
Considering that at this point all i can see from you is that you dont want to kill anyone.
The reason I'm not pursuing you now is what suspicions I had are all quashed. You were suspicious to me due to your not posting, and lurking instead of replying to questions and comments. The fact that you were gone for so long and never gave a reason is still a bit odd, but not vote-worthy.
I don't believe you are the fool anymore. If there is a fool, they are not making themselves a target yet.

Inazuma right now doesn't feel suspicious enough to vote for either. I wonder why they didn't post sooner, but again that's not vote worthy.
You seem to think that suspicion=vote, which isn't the case.
My suspicions lie in Toto, and yourself. I have questions about others, but you two are the only ones I'm suspicious of.
I don't want to kill, or even vote for someone unless I'm almost certain.
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Boa Sandersonia
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Funkfreed, you won't make it to Day 4. It will not happen.
Either the Mafia will kill you or the Town will lynch you because there is NO WAY we will let you live that long if you aren't giving us results. I suggest you claim. If you claim the Town can give you advice on how best to use your power and someone with a protection power will most likely try to protect you so you survive the Night.

I can only play the game from my prospective and right now if I was part of the Mafia I would take you out the next night. I HIGHLY suggest...no, I BEG you to claim right now so the town can put some sort of plan together with you. Don't die for nothing.

If you are Mafia, again, the Town will want results and you'll die before Day 4 if you don't give it to us.


Laki
Sep 29 2016, 04:16 AM
Funkfreed
 
Ruuu
(To explain myself i just wanna keep talking untill something happens that we can use
And also there is another reason that i talk alot i can tell it in day 4 or 5)
Funkfreed
Sep 28 2016, 08:00 PM
Oh i didnt think that can be role claim at that moment
I meant was gonna explain the way i play mafia but well
If you want to "explain the way you play Mafia" or whatever, or at least explain what you meant by the previous post (which I included above this quote), why do you need to wait until Day 4 or 5 to do that? Why wouldn't you just tell us now to clear up the confusion? You phrasing it that way has raised a lot of eyebrows because it sounds like role-claiming (whether you meant it to or not), and you haven't done much to try to clarify.
Merry
Sep 29 2016, 02:07 AM
"QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY: How does you feel about lynching an inactive player on Day 1. Even if you answered this question before I'd appreciate it if you'd reiterate. As of now, as far as I know, Inazuma is the only player that has not posted yet on Day 1 but we still have a good number of hours left before the end of the Day. Do you think it's beneficial for Town to lynch an inactive player now or give them a chance to come on Day 2? Why?"

To answer my own question I think it's a bad idea to lynch Inazuma on Day 1 assuming the player stays inactive until the end of the Day. I don't think a Mafia member will purposely play the inactive game for the risks it carries. There are too many outside reasons a fellow Townie might not log in on the first Day and Town is strongest in numbers. We need numbers. To most likely give Mafia a headstart of 2 kills based on nothing but inactivity is faulty. On Day 2 of complete inactivity though ....that is a different matter as we gave that player a large enough chance to come on.
Here, I'll just quote what I said before for reference, since my opinion on the issue has not changed.
Laki
Sep 28 2016, 02:04 AM
If we have a missing player, then I'm with Johnny that that's much more of a hindrance for the Town than the Mafia. Sometimes in the past, the Mafia has killed the inactive to go for a "safe" kill and/or mess with us, but counting on them to do so would not be wise, and there's no time like the present, when we're still trying to get a read on those who are here, to weed out players like that. We're not going to want to have to waste a lynch on an inactive player later down the line when we actually do have real suspicions of other people.
Quite frankly, waiting until Day 2 before we consider Inazuma's inactivity unacceptable is too long. Hell, I already think it's unacceptable. Especially since I saw him online earlier today, so if he was having some kind of personal problems, he could have at least said something like, "Hey, I've been really busy, will post when I have more time," but he didn't. As I've said above, and as a few others (such as Toto and Haredas, iirc?) have also expressed, an inactive townie is completely dead weight, and the fact that they will contribute literally nothing to the town, or to the entire game actually, means that there's no good reason to keep them around. So having two of them (in the form of Inazuma and Brûlée) is even worse.
Boa Sandersonia
Sep 29 2016, 03:08 AM
I'm saying I want Funkfreed lynched because I want to know if the Mafia has a posting requirement. That confirmation could mean at least one lurking player, maybe Inuzuma, is scum too. Bascially, Funkfreed is my top suspect and I want him lynched today, not an inactive player.
As weird as Funkfreed's behavior is, to me, his comment sounds more like a townie foolishly making a soft claim, or just meaning something else entirely and being confusing, than a Mafia with a posting requirement. There's no denying some of the stuff he's said and done has been strange (and as you can see, I've called him out on that in this post), but I'm not sold enough about him being scum (yet, at least) that I'd be willing to lynch him over an inactive player. If Brûlée and Inazuma show up and start actually doing something, I'd reconsider, or if Funkfreed says/does enough more weird stuff to really make me think he's scum, then I'll also reconsider. But for the time being, I consider the inactive people to be the major problem here.

Yeah, it's weird. He should be called out on it. Do you think Funkfreed should fully claim?

As for Inazuma, I also think it's weird a Mafia power was used on Day 1. I'm more than willing to change my vote if Funkfreed claims or a hammer is needed against Inazuma. I wish Inazuma voted for someone so we could see if that vote was officially counted. That would make things a lot easier.


Inazuma
Sep 29 2016, 06:50 AM
I was waiting to let it be known, but my ability to post has apparently been limited by a Silencer item. I got the notification two hours into the day. I'm limited to one post, and less than fifty words.

Not allowed to vote lynch either.

Why wait to tell us? This is looking bad for you.

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Funkfreed
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Im not gonna claim until last lynch why should i claim fast
First you make shopping list now this
I only fully claim when i be on real danger
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Funkfreed
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How many hours later will day end wanna wake up end day
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Merry

Waiiiit, why are people revealing they have roles and Boa asking other people to claim....on DAY 1!? If there is a Doctor they can't protect more than 1 person and so far I believe I've seen no less than 2 people claiming they have a role of some sort.

I think role claiming is a really bad idea right now and nooo one should be role claiming unless they're about to be lynched or something. The fact that you're blatantly asking for his role Boa is highly suspicious and downright dangerous. Why do you think it's a good idea?
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Ohm
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Funkfreed
Sep 29 2016, 02:34 PM
How many hours later will day end wanna wake up end day
20 -15 hours I believe , I might be wrong . Did you recieve an answer from the mods? And I do believe you have information about this game. When are you willing to share it?
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Ohm
Sep 29 2016, 02:38 PM
Funkfreed
Sep 29 2016, 02:34 PM
How many hours later will day end wanna wake up end day
20 -15 hours I believe , I might be wrong . Did you recieve an answer from the mods? And I do believe you have information about this game. When are you willing to share it?
I was the wrong one
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Dorry
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Looking over Inazuma's claims, and considering how this Silencer item would come into play, I agree that he is definitely suspicious.

Vote Lynch: Inazuma
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Elizabello II
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Boa Sandersonia
Sep 29 2016, 01:40 PM

Yeah, it's weird. He should be called out on it. Do you think Funkfreed should fully claim?

As for Inazuma, I also think it's weird a Mafia power was used on Day 1. I'm more than willing to change my vote if Funkfreed claims or a hammer is needed against Inazuma. I wish Inazuma voted for someone so we could see if that vote was officially counted. That would make things a lot easier.


Inazuma
Sep 29 2016, 06:50 AM
I was waiting to let it be known, but my ability to post has apparently been limited by a Silencer item. I got the notification two hours into the day. I'm limited to one post, and less than fifty words.

Not allowed to vote lynch either.

Why wait to tell us? This is looking bad for you.

I want more details from Inazuma and we are not gonna get them if we lynch him.
Regardless, I believe what you said there would have been the right course of action, meaning putting down a vote to proof it doesn't count. I will expect that from anybody claiming to have been silenced in the future.

The wording inazuma used leaves the option that he is not allowed to post a vote. I expect that Inazuma will clarify the exact limitations and consequences before showing up tomorrow. Until then, if you've been silenced and putting down a vote would in fact mean your death, say that instead.

Such a clever thought. And then you go and ask for a full claim. Why would you do that? What benefit is there for town.
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