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Topic Started: Sep 28 2016, 12:00 AM (6,803 Views)
Charlotte Brûlée
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Where's Keimi, havent seen much of them for a bit. Although i know thats not useful at all i dont know a different perspective of things might help my brain settle ideas.
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Gan Fall
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Hadn't seen Salome and Fair Lady Porsche for a while now too. Salome and Porsche, what are your thoughts about the 2 ongoing wagons (Inazuma/Sandersonia) or do both of you have other suspicious that you would like to bring up?
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Sep 29 2016, 04:40 PM
My opinion about Dorry although at first seemed a little rash, I dont see any problem with someone taking their vote off someone when being told they are guilty for having certain views. Although i cant say lynching Inazuma will help or not towards towns victory, i frankly have no clue.
I see the thought process of what people in general are doing in terms of jumping in on inazuma's bandwaqgon to get him to start talking, but clearly at this stage its not working and clearly Dorry is trying to show that he isnt scum in trying to slow down a possible hammer on someone who isnt posting, which as you said..
Its counterproductive killing someone if you want answers from them.

And with that, what reason do I have to believe that you wont retract your vote from Dorry, as a possible half-assed attempt at throwing him under the bus?
Several worrisome statements and implications here.

First off, everybody is fine to have certain views. Troubling is the behaviors which is what I voted him for. Withdrawing his vote neither makes the reasons for my vote disappear nor does it in fact dampen them. As said, I find that if anything more suspicious.

Secondly, I hope nobody is jumping on Inazuma's bandwagon to get him to start talking. Because per his own statement, he is not allowed to post anymore today (silenced). If anybody is voting Inazuma today, then hopefully only because they don't believe what he said or because they are suspicious about what he said and more importantly not said.

Thirdly, I don't believe that Dorry said he withdrew his vote to slow down a possible hammer so that is your interpretation.

Fourth, "throwing somebody under the bus" is not a town behavior. The only people benefitting from doing so are mafia and potentially third parties. They sometimes will actually throw a team member under the bus in order to gain town credit and to distract attention away from them. As said, townies do not have the motivation to do so. Consequently, you both acknowledge Dorry as potential mafia and actually even accused me of being mafia. Now, if you actually believe Dorry to be mafia then vote him. If he turns mafia then we can discuss again whether voting him first makes me a mafia that wanted town credit.

Lastly, there is nothing half-assed about this. I do want to see Dorry lynched. I'm all about second chances but I'm not sure what he could do at this point that would completely erase my suspicion. The only reason I might change my vote is to move it to a different vote that is more likely to succeed and that I can support.
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As a noble knight, it would not be honorable for me to direct such questions to fellow comrades without giving my thoughts too.

Inazuma: Repeating myself again, but still not discounting the possibility that he is actually the man with a Silencer role. Like what many pointed out, his waste of precious word limit is questionable. Could also be completely pulling this item thing out of nowhere to throw us comrades on a loop, though that is highly unlikely.

Sandersonia: Raised many eyebrows by a list out of nowhere. Her pressuring Funkfreed to reveal his role rattled my armour and my old bones a little. My guess is she could be the 3rd party, trying to weed out the power townies for favourable Mafia kills while her brother/sister-in-arms cruise on to their dishonorable victory (not really sure in what circumstances the 3rd-party will be declared win though...). Her actively wishing for a lynch gives more ground on my little theory.

Its clear that I am leaning more on Lady Sandersonia more, though I my suspicions about Brother Inazuma still stand and grow. I won't put a lynch vote now because I am about to cruise the skies with my beloved Pierre soon and won't be here, plus I prefer to send forth my lance close to Day Change.
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With 19 players left, it takes 10 to lynch.

Funkfreed (1): Sandersonia
Sandersonia (2): Funkfreed, Johnny
Inazuma (4): Richie, Nero, Toto, Laki
Dorry (2): Elizabello II, Merry

Not voting (10): Aphelandra, Brulee, Dorry, Gan Fall, Haredas, Inazuma, Keimi, Porsche, Salome, Ohm.

Less than 4 hours left~
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@ Merry: I don't believe I ever said that he contradicted himself.
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Toto
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Oh, my frail body cannot take this chaos.

With just over 3 hours left, the only realistic lynch is Inazuma. Please, if you are at all interested in making progress and getting any answers, vote for Inazuma.

While I definitely have a substantial suspicion of Boa, there is some chance she is trying to confuse the enemy or make the most out of rash soft-claims (not to mention there are already those who would lynch Funkfreed). I personally wish to see if she survives the night, and what else happens, then re-evaluate tomorrow.

And similarly for Dorry, the hasty 180 raises my scruffy eyebrow, but to think that that, among everything happening, is what deserves a last-minute wagon? Ho ho, I cannot help but characterize it as quite foolish.

If anything I would want to lynch Aphelandra, for insisting on petty fearmongering and discouraging town unity. The Fool is not at all the most common 3rd party, and is considered a bastard role because it is unfair, unbalanced, and mean.

Elizabello II
Sep 29 2016, 07:29 PM
Secondly, I hope nobody is jumping on Inazuma's bandwagon to get him to start talking. Because per his own statement, he is not allowed to post anymore today (silenced). If anybody is voting Inazuma today, then hopefully only because they don't believe what he said or because they are suspicious about what he said and more importantly not said.
If Inazuma is in fact lying, there should be a reasonable chance that they would in fact post before getting hammered. Whether anyone would be willing to hear excuses is another matter. At any rate, pressure is better than no pressure.

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What pressure. The guy can't post. His flip is not gonna spell out any details on who, what, when,why he got silenced. I want those answers so I can't lynch him.
Him lying about being silenced is highly unlikely. I only included it because I don't like to exclude possibilities until they are 100% out. You using this aspect as part of the case for lynching him however just overstates the likelihood of him lying.
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Elizabello II
Sep 29 2016, 09:19 PM
What pressure. The guy can't post. His flip is not gonna spell out any details on who, what, when,why he got silenced. I want those answers so I can't lynch him.
Him lying about being silenced is highly unlikely. I only included it because I don't like to exclude possibilities until they are 100% out. You using this aspect as part of the case for lynching him however just overstates the likelihood of him lying.

Oh, my brutish friend. Assuming Inazuma is telling the truth, what in the name of a pink Enel-ghost-demon-rabbit's uncle makes you think Inazuma knows who silenced him, or why? And if they did, why was it not mentioned in the post? I find it quite laughable to think further interrogation will be fruitful, and to assume the statement is truthful to begin with. The only way to get any more information is to see a flip. As for when, we know that. It was stated perfectly clearly that it was 2 hours into the Day.
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Sep 29 2016, 09:24 PM
Elizabello II
Sep 29 2016, 09:19 PM
What pressure. The guy can't post. His flip is not gonna spell out any details on who, what, when,why he got silenced. I want those answers so I can't lynch him.
Him lying about being silenced is highly unlikely. I only included it because I don't like to exclude possibilities until they are 100% out. You using this aspect as part of the case for lynching him however just overstates the likelihood of him lying.

Oh, my brutish friend. Assuming Inazuma is telling the truth, what in the name of a pink Enel-ghost-demon-rabbit's uncle makes you think Inazuma knows who silenced him, or why? And if they did, why was it not mentioned in the post? I find it quite laughable to think further interrogation will be fruitful, and to assume the statement is truthful to begin with. The only way to get any more information is to see a flip. As for when, we know that. It was stated perfectly clearly that it was 2 hours into the Day.
Fair enough. I do not expect full answers on these questions but I do expect additional details. I further admit that I missed the timing information. I'm actually surprised now that there wasn't more discussion around this so far because it would potentially allow to limit the amount of suspects.

Now what in the name of a pink Enel-ghost-demon-rabbit's uncle makes you think the statement is not truthful to begin with?
And do you expect there to be any information about the silencing in the flip?
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