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Oct 1 2016, 07:11 AM
Let me put it one way that also answers Aphelandra's last comment to me.

The "Rules to Live By" thread clearly states the win conditions for town and mafia (again, with correct color-coding!). But nothing else. It stands to reason that a 3rd party, belonging to neither, must have win conditions listed explicitly, no matter what. Salome was a bit special because it was more of a loss condition, because to win she would assume one of the other two alignments (with known win conditions).
I understand. So if Gan Fall were a third party, he would have gotten a win/lose condition in his PM since it's not spelled out in the Rules thread, so you're saying that his claim that he didn't get one confirms that he can't be third party. Yes?

Sounds good, except...couldn't Gan Fall be...y'know...lying about there not being anything in his PM? Since, y'know, lying about your role is part of the game and shit?

I'm not saying he is third party; I think the whole stupid thing with the bananas and the colors kind of seemed to confirm he is indeed Mafia. I'm just trying to figure out what you were trying to accomplish with that whole quiz thing. Since he can lie about what his PM says, and since there are townies who did not get their win conditions stated in their PMs, I don't see why that confirmed which non-town role he is any more than before.
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Also salomes win condition was not stated in first post
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Funkfreed
Oct 1 2016, 07:26 AM
About yesterday
Ganfall said things about inazuma being silencer
I see one of these 2
1 gan fall used silencer item on inazuma
2 gan fall is right and inazuma is silencer And if nero is telling the truth that inazuma is green then inazuma is third party silencer
A few people said that. There's nothing substantial that connects Gan Fall to silencing Inazuma.
So if Gan Fall isn't the Silencer, then you believe that either Inazuma is a Silencer, or that there is some item system in this game?

If that is true, Gan Fall, then does someone have the ability to communicate? I'm somewhat inclined to believe him based on the fact that he at all attempted to use it to defend himself.
Why reply with that instead of answering the question, though?
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Gan Fall. Were the first words in your message: Hello Townie!, Welcome Townie!, or Hi Townie! ?
NO ONE ELSE ANSWER THAT! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!

This was Boa's question. She didn't stated WHICH message. It thus led me into the assumption that she was asking about a 'message' sent to me yesterday night, so I told her what message I received.
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Aphelandra
Oct 1 2016, 07:33 AM
Funkfreed
Oct 1 2016, 07:26 AM
About yesterday
Ganfall said things about inazuma being silencer
I see one of these 2
1 gan fall used silencer item on inazuma
2 gan fall is right and inazuma is silencer And if nero is telling the truth that inazuma is green then inazuma is third party silencer
A few people said that. There's nothing substantial that connects Gan Fall to silencing Inazuma.
So if Gan Fall isn't the Silencer, then you believe that either Inazuma is a Silencer, or that there is some item system in this game?

If that is true, Gan Fall, then does someone have the ability to communicate? I'm somewhat inclined to believe him based on the fact that he at all attempted to use it to defend himself.
Why reply with that instead of answering the question, though?
Well i missed the 3rd that ganfall did wrong guess
Can you also link me to the question
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Oct 1 2016, 07:38 AM
Gan Fall. Were the first words in your message: Hello Townie!, Welcome Townie!, or Hi Townie! ?
NO ONE ELSE ANSWER THAT! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!

This was Boa's question. She didn't stated WHICH message. It thus led me into the assumption that she was asking about a 'message' sent to me yesterday night, so I told her what message I received.
She was asking about your role PM. Now answer the question.
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Laki
Oct 1 2016, 07:33 AM
Toto
Oct 1 2016, 07:11 AM
Let me put it one way that also answers Aphelandra's last comment to me.

The "Rules to Live By" thread clearly states the win conditions for town and mafia (again, with correct color-coding!). But nothing else. It stands to reason that a 3rd party, belonging to neither, must have win conditions listed explicitly, no matter what. Salome was a bit special because it was more of a loss condition, because to win she would assume one of the other two alignments (with known win conditions).
I understand. So if Gan Fall were a third party, he would have gotten a win/lose condition in his PM since it's not spelled out in the Rules thread, so you're saying that his claim that he didn't get one confirms that he can't be third party. Yes?

Sounds good, except...couldn't Gan Fall be...y'know...lying about there not being anything in his PM? Since, y'know, lying about your role is part of the game and shit?

I'm not saying he is third party; I think the whole stupid thing with the bananas and the colors kind of seemed to confirm he is indeed Mafia. I'm just trying to figure out what you were trying to accomplish with that whole quiz thing. Since he can lie about what his PM says, and since there are townies who did not get their win conditions stated in their PMs, I don't see why that confirmed which non-town role he is any more than before.
Oh, my little winged vixen. Yes, of course Gan Fall could be lying. But that in itself is equal grounds to lynch the scoundrel. And maybe it wasn't obvious, but these questions are meant for Gan Fall and no one else. You have caused enough chaos by choosing to answer yourself. Plus I am concerned that you didn't catch the drift based on Boa's question... but no, I shall refrain from asking you to answer it, even if Gan Fall does answer it first (which he has not).
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Oct 1 2016, 07:40 AM
She was asking about your role PM. Now answer the question.
What makes you so sure that its the role PM?

Anyway, checking it now. It was very cold. Aside from a nice smiley face it just stated my character and my role.
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Oct 1 2016, 07:45 AM
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Oct 1 2016, 07:40 AM
She was asking about your role PM. Now answer the question.
What makes you so sure that its the role PM?

*Wrinkly facepalm*

Okay Gan Fall, I am done. I leave the rest to our companions; it is obvious where I stand.
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Middle of Page 8, Funkfreed.

I would say that in context that was obviously not the matter at hand, but really the PM discussion didn't happen until after that message. Sandersonia's mentioning of night actions multiple times could have hinted to you that the gauntlet message was the one in question, so I can see where you could be confused.
I'm not entirely convinced, though. If Laki truly didn't receive a win condition in her PM then perhaps there is a difference between power and non-power role PMs. Do you have a power, Gan Fall?
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