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Day 2 - Morning Sickness
Topic Started: Oct 1 2016, 12:34 AM (4,878 Views)
Funkfreed
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"Although a village role, the Undercover Cop attends mafia meetings, appearing to be mafia to everyone. In games with the Undercover Cop, mafia members can vote to kill one another"
Found this in here https://epicmafia.com/role/10443
Wonder they can kill nero or not
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Funkfreed
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By just voteing him i mean
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Laki
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This whole shit with Inazuma and Nero is just making my head spin. @___@ I really don't know whom to believe right now. It's basically one guy's word vs the other. And I don't have the time right now to try to dissect problems with either of their stories like I did with Dorry before. But I'll try to address some other things.
Toto
Oct 1 2016, 07:41 AM
Oh, my little winged vixen. Yes, of course Gan Fall could be lying. But that in itself is equal grounds to lynch the scoundrel. And maybe it wasn't obvious, but these questions are meant for Gan Fall and no one else. You have caused enough chaos by choosing to answer yourself. Plus I am concerned that you didn't catch the drift based on Boa's question... but no, I shall refrain from asking you to answer it, even if Gan Fall does answer it first (which he has not).
Actually, I didn't answer either question. I very much refrained from answering Sandersonia's after she specifically told everyone else not to, and I didn't actually answer yours, either. And moreover, I didn't say anything in reply to yours until after Gan Fall did, so if you were trying to trap him, it's not like I blew your trap. Usually, if it truly is "one person answering a question that was posed to someone else", everybody gets annoyed by it, but I didn't receive that, because that's not what happened.

Quite frankly, part of why I said anything is because one of my working theories right now is that you are not Town (either Mafia or another 3rd party if there is one), and thus might have assumed that the Town PMs had the win condition written in them because they usually do, but didn't know that they might not because you didn't receive a Town PM yourself. And so, I wanted it out there in writing that not all Town PM's say that, at a time when I have absolutely no reason to lie about it, and when it's actually relevant and being discussed.

And funny, you accuse me of "causing chaos", but you're the only person who seemed to have a problem with me stepping in to clarify that. You all were already talking about the wording of PMs and messages before I said anything. Are you saying I "caused chaos" simply because you're the one I was contradicting?
Aphelandra
Oct 1 2016, 03:27 PM
Also, from what I recall Dorry, Porsche and Ohm are the three that haven't posted today.
Porsche was online earlier for a spell, and Ohm on right now, but no signs of Dorry.
Dorry made one post today, this one:
Dorry
Oct 1 2016, 03:59 AM
Hmm...the suspicion around me still seems to be present. After reading back through everything, I do indeed have appeared to put myself in a hole. First I gave my initial impressions of the mafia's possible strategy, which was to be active but not at the forefront of things, which left me between the rock and the hard place of not wanting to act like the mafia but yet not hanging back as a lurker. As a result, I did both, resulting in this mess. So forgive me as I get off a rocky start. I will try paying more attention to things, and refrain from posting without thinking about the direction I'm going in.

I do have one question after reading this thread, for Pizarro I guess if he can answer it (happy birthday by the way): Was there any sort of gameplay cycle happening during the sign-in phase? Call me obtuse, but it does seem strange for items such as a Silencer to be used before a day truly begins.
Which, for the record, did not quell my suspicions in the slightest. This basically feels more like a Mafia saying, "I'll try not to make those mistakes anymore" than a townie trying to say, "I can see why you're suspicious of me, but I'm not guilty because of X, Y, and Z" or fighting back at all. And then (as far as I remember) not saying anything else since then?

Yup, still right up there at the top of my list. I believe in that wagon on him as much as ever. But, thanks to Gan Fall's whole slipup today, it's pretty clear that wasn't gonna go anywhere.

But yes, I do want to know where the heck Porsche is, too. I think she's our only candidate left to be Silenced today if that actually happened? Or she could be lying low for other reasons. Has anybody seen her online? I thought I did, but I might be blending it with Night 1 (I know I saw her then, but I think I saw everyone then at some point).
Haredas
Oct 1 2016, 06:24 PM
I think the game would be horribly unbalanced if the mafia can kill 3 people per night so either Funkfreed is some sort of 3rd party killer or he is talking baseless nonsense and that would probably mean he is mafia.
I agree here, I doubt the Mafia can kill more than one person at night. Even killing two per night seems horribly unbalanced, especially if Ohm's numbers actually are true. But that doesn't mean the "multiple kills can happen per night" theory is wrong. Some other, non-Mafia roles I can think of that might be able to kill are a Vigilante Townie, or (if there actually still is another 3rd party), a Serial Killer. We did only have one death last Night, but one's Night's data isn't really enough to give us conclusive evidence one way or the other, especially since it's possibly that some killing roles aren't active every night.
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Laki
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Well, and everybody ninja'd the shit outta me in the meantime. Of course. Although I was distracted, too.

I am glad to see that I'm not the only person who's suspicious of Dorry still.

Really have to go now, will be back later.
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Haredas
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I have some stuff I gotta do IRL.
I will be back online some time later this afternoon.
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Funkfreed
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I think neros undercover cop differs
if nero went to their "meetings" he culd just give us mafia name today and finish the game
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Elizabello II
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Funkfreed. I would ask you not to rely only on mafia wiki. Experience has shown that moderators have no hesitation adjusting roles within their game setup. Their creativity is part of what keeps these games alive and entertaining. However, I have also experienced that mods are willing to provide some clarifications on roles and potential effects in hypothetic situations if asked in private (like your diary). All that said I appreciate your enthusiasm about the game and the research you are doing.
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With 18 players left, it takes 10 to lynch.

Gan Fall (6): Toto, Johnny, Sandersonia, Laki, Merry, Nero
Nero (1): Inazuma

Not voting (11): Aphelandra, Brulee, Dorry, Elizabello II, Funkfreed, Gan Fall, Haredas, Keimi, Ohm, Porsche, Richie.

Around 26 hours left~
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Haredas
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so not much has changed?

would be nice if our missing player showed up.

and @Laki: I am not saying multikills is impossible but Funkfreed seems pretty sure about it being a thing.... almost like he has more knowledge about killing roles than the rest of us.
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As my posts show Ohm asked me what my thoughts were on you I answered so that people would not accidently think I am trying to hide something about you by ignoring that part of the post. It seems strangely defensive to tell me to focus on something else when I was already focusing on something besides you. Honestly I think it is more likely that Funkfreed is anti town and you just have the misfortune of interacting with him. Also if you are who I think you are your boldness is a personality thing.

Not defensive, more annoyed. Someone backed up my item giving last Night. So, in my mind I don't feel like I should focused on with others out there with NO results and no way to prove their innocence. ...And yeah, I'm who you think I am. I hate roleplaying when I"m a player.

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You did just say yourself that going after one person doesn't mean you have to ignore the other person . Did any of your thoughts change after the info I now gave . Also did you ever explain why you gave the silencer to Ina day 1 ?

Ohm, I'm barely interested in your reports. The Town won't win until the threats are gone. We keep going until that happens. Sure, the farther the game goes the more we can use them such as in Final Lynches or when to mass claim. But right now, they have little influence on me.

Silencer? So, now I have to power to Silence people during the Day AND give items at Night? Stuff like THAT is why I'm annoyed.
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