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Day 2 - Morning Sickness
Topic Started: Oct 1 2016, 12:34 AM (4,875 Views)
Toto
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Dorry
Oct 2 2016, 03:03 AM
Hey guys. I was very busy for most of the day and when I returned after several hours there were nearly 20 more pages than there were previously. I don't have the time to read that much, and so I'm not exactly sure why Gan Fall is being targeted. If someone could give me the reason why he has nearly been lynched, I can decide whether or not it would be a good idea to lynch him.
It happened quite early in the day. You should read it. Basically Gan Fall slipped up and confused blue as a non-town alignment color (if he were town, he would have seen the blue in his role PM).

Elizabello II
Oct 2 2016, 03:10 AM
That's 8, can we stop voting for now.

If anyone can come up with a good reason to prolong the day, by all means. We can give people a few hours to speak up on that matter. But personally I would no longer oppose at least putting him at L-1, if not completing the lynch.
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Aphelandra
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All I wanna be is the one who gets to see a giant woman
I'd like for Porsche to post, but that seems unlikely.
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Toto
Oct 2 2016, 01:40 AM
Aphelandra
Oct 1 2016, 03:52 PM
It did not begin with that. It began with "You are Aphelandra the Vanilla Town."

You know, details are important. Gan Fall is probably getting lynched over a detail. But Haredas is apparently treating it as a joke. Also, why so quick to claim vanilla? Why is EVERYONE claiming in some way? My old bones are aching over this.

My joke was actually based around what detail she messed up. Since she claimed to be the entire town. Trust me I can be serious and not serious at the same time.


Toto
Oct 2 2016, 02:26 AM
I think right now the straightforward, obvious lynch is Gan Fall. Tomorrow's course of action will depend significantly on what occurs during the night. But as it currently stands Inazuma is the next logical choice (you don't lynch a cop to verify his claim; you lynch his report first to see if he's lying).

Which brings me to my next point:

We are more than halfway through the day. To everyone who doesn't have a vote on Gan Fall, what are you still hoping to accomplish today? Do you have specific questions for specific people that you need answered? Are you unconvinced? Are you just going to sit around wondering if the absent players are silenced? Does it matter?
I am waiting for other people to be satisfied. Make no mistake I will lynch Gan Fall if my vote is needed! However I am not about to set up a hammer and make everyone who has some questions to ask angry.



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Gan Fall, clearly you are being lynched today. If you are mafia great for us. If you are town do you want to use the chance to tell us anything. Like what your second message was all about. (I hope I didn't miss this while trying to keep up with everything today on my phone).
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Haredas
Oct 2 2016, 03:21 AM
My joke was actually based around what detail she messed up. Since she claimed to be the entire town. Trust me I can be serious and not serious at the same time.

I know, but... well, maybe this conversation is best postponed. I just feel it deserved more scrutiny than a little joke.

Haredas
Oct 2 2016, 03:21 AM
I am waiting for other people to be satisfied. Make no mistake I will lynch Gan Fall if my vote is needed! However I am not about to set up a hammer and make everyone who has some questions to ask angry.

Okay, thanks.
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Since you are in the topic anything you would like to share Gan Fall?
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Toto is extremely pushy on pushing a Lynch vote with so many hours to go. It's almost as if... the less time there is to discuss... the less scummy he has to make himself look. I say we make him insist on his scummy pushing until the very last hour. I'm curious to see just how far he'll push it.
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Gan fall continues to ignore the discussion at hand. The color coded nonsense seemed like a scummy push by a few players, but maybe it holds some substance now that he

Of course, it doesn't outweigh Nero's Day 2 cop claim. Still laughing about that.
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Toto
Oct 2 2016, 02:42 AM
Merry
Oct 2 2016, 02:29 AM
@Toto: For the record, you're only right if Inazuma is lying or wrong about his silencing. You have indeed been resistant to talk about 3rd Parties and items because you see the terms "Silencer" and "silencing item" as one in the same.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/Dungeon_Crawl_Mafia/single/?p=10003855&t=10030370

But if Funkfreed and Boa are telling even the semblance of the truth about item exchanges then how do we know items aren't at play in this game and another party isn't using them? It's not a distraction as you keep trying to point out. What happens if we lynch Inazuma and his role doesn't turn out to be a Silencer? Do we lynch Porsche next for faking it? What if she isn't faking it? What if Inazuma and Porsche were both actually silenced? All because we don't want to entertain the idea that someone could be using something other than an ability? Even when, again, items are possibly in this game as I type this out.

And the possibility that it was in fact the Mafia who are able to silence someone during the Day when probably no one is able to trace them is a scary thought and, frankly, OP. For them to do it on Day 1 nonetheless points to them being able to do it whenever they want. Unless, Elizabello is right and Day 1 use was just an exception.

I... you... *pulls out any remaining hair on his head*

Ultimately the silencing (if real), regardless of whether it's an item, came from an ability. I don't care whose it was, or how it was used. I am not refusing to talk about 3rd parties, I just LITERALLY DON'T CARE WHETHER IT CAME FROM ONE. All I know is it's a clearly anti-town ability, so whoever used it would need to be stopped

I don't know how to explain this more simply. I wanted to lynch Inazuma on the first day because it had 2 possible outcomes:

1) Inazuma was a good guy. There is a silencer in whatever capacity, who must be stopped.
2) Inazuma is a liar (my belief!). Lynching him is a huge town victory.

Either way, we learned something valuable. NOTHING ELSE MATTERED.

But the ante has only been upped now! Nero has claimed to have copped Inazuma, and found him to be 3rd party!

Now we have TWICE the reason to lynch Inazuma! Because if Inazuma flips town, not only do we confirm silencing, we also confirm Nero is lying and we get to lynch him instead!

*Passes out from frustration*
More of this "let's sacrifice players for unsure results". I wonder who actually benefits from there being less players.

Hmmmm. Whatever could that alignment be called.
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Gan Fall
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GOD
I guess everyone is dead set on lynching me today, all because my old eyes mistook Yellow with Blue. Meanness to this poor old man all around. However, like I said before, I have a one-off trade ability that is very useful for the Town, though I guess its impossible to ask all you comrades to keep me here one more day, but doing so will be greatly appreciated. And I'll be blunt: I am not a Mafia.

I really have no idea what the message sent to me was all about, and I gave all of you the info I found out last night already. And I really appreciate if you all could help me find out the motive and sender of that perplexing message too.
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