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Haredas
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Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:34 AM
I am leaning on the side of an item used by a certain role though.
What do you mean by "used by a certain role" ?
I am not doubting this part of the post or anything I would just like to hear if you have an idea of what specifically did this or if you just mean "used by mafia"
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Haredas
Oct 1 2016, 01:42 AM
Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:34 AM
I am leaning on the side of an item used by a certain role though.
What do you mean by "used by a certain role" ?
I am not doubting this part of the post or anything I would just like to hear if you have an idea of what specifically did this or if you just mean "used by mafia"
An item given to a role. Probably with limited uses?

I would lean mafia for it, since it effectively kills that person's ability to discuss.
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Boa Sandersonia
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Funkfreed, that something you got last Night was from me. Don't say what it is, just confirm that you got it.

Now we wait to see if a roleblocker attacked anyone. Assuming they're both Town, Ohm and Funkfreed didn't die so I'd say the Mafia was scared they were being protected. Salome was a safe target. The Mafia will be lookiing for investigating roles today so they can hit a bigger target next Night.

Toto
Oct 1 2016, 12:43 AM
Ho ho ho, not a bad first night.

So, does anybody think that if Inazuma was telling the truth, the silence was caused by the mafia? A daytime mafia ability that suppresses posting/voting, used on the very first day.

I think it was a lie to begin with, but otherwise I'm asserting that it was unquestionably a 3rd-party ability. Which means, either Inazuma is lying, or Ohm is lying. Who to lynch first?

Also on the off-chance that someone else DOES get Silenced, do a lynch vote in your post to prove it doesn't work.

It's all about comparing notes to the one whose Silenced today. Not only does today's Silenced person has vote lynch, they have to confirm if an item was mentioned in their message. Also, WHEN they got the message.

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Merry
Oct 1 2016, 01:33 AM
5.) Salome's title makes him seem more like a lone wolf rather than a 3rd Party but call it what you like he wasn't Town aligned. Are there more lone wolves among us?
Can't they be the same thing, if it's a one-person 3rd Party? Like, when there's a game with just one Serial Killer, wouldn't he be considered both 3rd Party and Lone Wolf?
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Toto
Oct 1 2016, 01:19 AM
Keimi
Oct 1 2016, 01:14 AM
Not that I know of, but to be fair we've never had an Identity Thief that I know of before either.

We have, however, had an body snatcher role, which is somewhat similar. But "to be fair" the Silencer role is an existing role that typically works at night.

Anyway Keimi, care to share more thoughts about the current situation?
Overall it's been rather confusing, there's been a lot of claims going around that aren't normal.
Inazuma's being silenced
Sandersonia's soft claim
Whatever the hell Ohm is talking about

Were this a regular game I'd be tempted to lynch all three of them, but I think that Salome's flip has proven that this game may not have the common roles we've come to know. I was a little perturbed by the hastiness that people went after Inazuma yesterday, his accusers seemed convinced that it had to be a lie and were not content enough to wait til the next day when presumably Inazuma's silence would be lifted. Speaking of which I'm glad he posted so quickly in this day or it would have just been the same annoying thing all over again. Could he be lying? Sure, but there really was no reason to come up with such an outlandish one. Now all that being said I am still a bit wary because of how long it took him to finally submit his one post, there would have been way less suspicion if he had utilized it as early as possible. A lynch may still end up being a viable choice for him today, but doing so yesterday before we really got a chance to hear from him would have been a mistake regardless of his alignment. If he's town we need to hear his opinions, they are valuable. If he's mafia, then we will be able to use his interactions today to help hunt his friends down.
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Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:34 AM
I will now address Johnny and Toto, who both falsely stated that I was never reading the thread.
Ho ho, call me a silly nitpicker, but I never falsely stated anything. All I said was that I didn't see you lurking, not that you definitely were not reading. And anyway, I as I stated before, I considered that a very minor point compared to the rest.

Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:34 AM
Finally, there was a lot of scummy insistance that I was lying and that "my flip" would have answers. I'll definitely address specifics later, but anybody that entertained that idea and insisted on it is at the top of my suspects list for obvious reasons. You don't try to permanently take somebody out of the game that has had a major game item/role used on them without getting answers first.
Sorry my frivolous companion, but the best possible information would have been seeing your flip. It would have instantly confirmed whether there was or was not something afoot.

And so far, you have added no additional information of value. In fact, yesterday you could have fit your ENTIRE copy of the silencing message, along with the time it happened, along with a test vote, along with a few more words. Or did you try to be vague intentionally?

Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:45 AM
An item given to a role. Probably with limited uses?

I would lean mafia for it, since it effectively kills that person's ability to discuss.
I want to hear your thoughts on why anyone would use a limited-use silencing item on the first day. That would be the biggest waste imaginable. And I also believe it would be quite, quite overpowered as a mafia item, especially if it can be used during the day itself.

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Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:45 AM
Haredas
Oct 1 2016, 01:42 AM
Inazuma
Oct 1 2016, 01:34 AM
I am leaning on the side of an item used by a certain role though.
What do you mean by "used by a certain role" ?
I am not doubting this part of the post or anything I would just like to hear if you have an idea of what specifically did this or if you just mean "used by mafia"
An item given to a role. Probably with limited uses?

I would lean mafia for it, since it effectively kills that person's ability to discuss.

Thank you. for clearing it up for me.

Laki
Oct 1 2016, 01:48 AM
Merry
Oct 1 2016, 01:33 AM
5.) Salome's title makes him seem more like a lone wolf rather than a 3rd Party but call it what you like he wasn't Town aligned. Are there more lone wolves among us?
Can't they be the same thing, if it's a one-person 3rd Party? Like, when there's a game with just one Serial Killer, wouldn't he be considered both 3rd Party and Lone Wolf?
I agree with Laki 3rd party or lone wolf is the same thing. However as for "are there more lone wolves among us?" That depends on if we think Ohm is telling the truth he claimed there was only 1 "3rd party". are you suggesting he lied?

Boa Sandersonia
Oct 1 2016, 01:46 AM
It's all about comparing notes to the one whose Silenced today. Not only does today's Silenced person has vote lynch, they have to confirm if an item was mentioned in their message. Also, WHEN they got the message.

Did you read Inazuma's post?
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Merry

@Inazuma: Answer when you can. In your previous post you said what silenced you was an "item" which made it sound like that's the information you received in your PM notification.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/Dungeon_Crawl_Mafia/single/?p=10003127&t=10027684

But now you're saying you're not sure if it was an item or an ability? Because anyone can be given an "item" but only a specific role can have that "ability".

@Laki: Like I said you can call it what you like but I'm clarifying that Salome was most definitely working alone as opposed to with other people as a "party" implies.
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Toto
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Laki
Oct 1 2016, 01:31 AM
Okay, I guess I'll just take your word for it. With all the crazy shit that goes down in these games, I sometimes have a hard time knowing what goes and what doesn't.
If in doubt, simply ask our circus leader to clarify; do not simply take my word for it.

Boa Sandersonia
Oct 1 2016, 01:46 AM
Funkfreed, that something you got last Night was from me. Don't say what it is, just confirm that you got it.
I hope I am not being intrusive or offensive, but if you have a Fruit Vendor role or similar, please keep in mind that by convention even if you give out a fruit, the receiving member does not receive any type of alert that it has occurred. But a lady of your cunning surely has these bases covered already.
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I thought the Fruit Vendor's targets received notification that they'd been given fruit? That's what made them different from a Visitor.

Inazuma explicitly stated that he could not post a vote in his single post, so why would the newly silenced be able to? And I think that being allowed to post once was due to the late activation of the item/power. Sort of like a 'sorry for telling you late' thing.

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