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Day 3 - The Fall of Woman
Topic Started: Oct 4 2016, 06:13 AM (2,727 Views)
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Charlotte Brûlée
Oct 5 2016, 03:59 AM
Elizabello started that crap against you, Dorry, and now Aphelandra is getting away with that shit and you want to stand down?
The way I see it, I might not see something suspicious on Alphelandra directly, because elizabello started that crap against Dorry before.

Porsche:
I'm not sure why Dorry is under so much suspicion, even though I read up pretty well? Maybe I missed some things.
Can the people who voted him (Elizabello, Richie, Laki) elaborate once more on why they did?

I can not speak for those three but Dorry has been showing a lot of strange actions honestly, but who knows if it is actually just because he is a "new player" or if he is using that fact to better throw us off?
he has shown a lot of small things that just all add up to a strange feeling... sort of like he was trying to help but in a way that helped in the smallest way possible.


Charlotte Brûlée
Oct 5 2016, 03:59 AM
You arent the only one! I have suspected Elizabello since that first post against Dorry.
I might not have very many ideas, but I need to stand up for what I believe in. But frankly have no idea what questions to ask.

By the looks of it, Inazuma is screwed, however i will say now, it doesnt satisfy me knowing we might see his flip.
Wow it is almost as if you know exactly how to try and win me over. like you know who I am :ninja:


anyways it is getting late so I am off to bed. If this madness(day3) is still going on tomorrow I will try and figure out what action I am taking.
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Johnny
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Oh shoot, Nero's endorsement of me doesn't fully exonerate me does it? I still could be a GodFather. Dangit
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All right, finally back for the evening. Apologies for my absence.

I'm gonna go back through and answer some more stuff (so there's another post from me coming here soon), but one thing I noticed earlier that I wanted to point out to start things off:
Haredas
Oct 4 2016, 11:10 PM
(we already lynched Gan Fall and he was not the goon)

We don't know who the mafia goon is (I am assuming the mafia has at least one murder role)
I don't think it's just Goon Mafia who kill people, is it? I played as a JOAT Mafia before in a previous game with two Goon partners, but I still participated in the Night kills with them. I even had an option to use one of my abilities and still be the designated killer for Team Mafia for that same Night. May not be exactly the same in this game, but I don't see why a Mafia having a special role automatically means they can't ever take part in the brutal bloody murder as well. Gan Fall could be an exception because of the nature of his power, I guess, but I don't see why even that has to be the case.
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Nero

First you said you had info that you wouldn't reveal, but soon after you went ahead and said I'm a townie. I assumed you only withheld that info because you knew I had a role so I kinda blabbed that about myself. Then I find out you can only see colours. So what was the point of holding off that reveal?

Although I feel Nero's claim is probably true, it's still good to go over all the scenarios. Haredas I believe (sorry if this is misattributed) mentioned the possibility of Nero being mafia, and the info coming from one or more mafia members working together with their various powers. Why set all this up then? A) Nero can gain our trust (B) Slip in some fake report of mafioso's innocence and (C) Get us to take out the 3rd party while the mafia gets a free kill (versus us potentially taking out a mafia member and them having to use their kill on the 3rd party)

I still think it's in our best interest to lynch the self-admitted 3rd party today though. We do have to remove the non-townies from the game to win. Also there's no telling what he could do if we let him live knowing he's a dead man. (Remember Gan Fall's JOAT claim! Had we given him one more night he would've taken one of the town with him.)


Funkfreed, this is kind of a gamble but tonight I am going to give you something. Under no circumstances confirm I gave it to you or reveal what it is. This is in the Town's best interest.
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Oh, my poor old head. Given Inazuma's claim, I almost want to wait another day to see what happens. The mafia can kill Nero, but Inazuma can also target Nero at night and assume his role. Then the mafia would ALSO have to kill Inazuma, which would sort of tidily do the job for us, without wasting lynches.

But it's sort of a high-stakes game of chicken at that point. Does the mafia leave it to the town? Does the town leave it to the mafia? Down the road, it could get problematic.

And there's still the problem that Inazuma and/or Nero could be lying. Inazuma re-iterated that the silencing was real. If he's telling the truth, that means we probably have a mafia silencer. So why was it used Day 1, but not used Day 2? And if Nero is being truthful, why wasn't he silenced, or killed, or roleblocked? Then again if we're assuming they used a silencing ability on the first day, logic and good planning might not be what to look for in their actions.

I still can't bring myself to trust either of them. Really right now I feel like just lynching Aphelandra, but I somehow doubt with half the day gone that I can build that wagon. So I'll probably just end up voting Inazuma, unless we get more shocking reveals in the next hours.

Dorry
Oct 5 2016, 03:07 AM
I'm not elaborating on anything because I've pretty much been left in the dirt by all this discourse; as a newer player, I've been unable to completely deduce the full workings of this game and the roles involved. So I do not want to make a rash decision and lynch Inazuma or Nero since I do not fully know what makes them scummy. Gan Fall's case was quickly obvious, but this debate seems to have its roots from Day 1.

Honestly, you can lynch me all you want, as certain real-life events have taken up my time and I don't really care if I die anymore. But you will get no benefit from lynching me, there will be one less person on your side and the percentage of mafia members will only increase...

My large lad, if you're a newer player then I can understand feeling a bit overwhelmed, but if you're too afraid to give opinions, follow hunches, or even cast votes, then it almost works against the town. Don't be afraid! Besides, even if you're wrong, you're just a part of the town. It's a collective thing.
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Johnny
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Nobody was "silenced" today either eh? Seriously what gives? That whole situation was so bizarre.
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Toto
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Johnny
Oct 5 2016, 06:54 AM
Nobody was "silenced" today either eh? Seriously what gives? That whole situation was so bizarre.
Assuming it's real, I'm even considering the possibility that it was a JOAT ability that someone blew at the start of the game. Gan Fall's sudden JOAT claim might have actually belonged to a buddy of his.
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@Johnny- I decided to say my report because it was the only thing I had in my pocket and at that time, no one seemed to be really interested in talking about our slap fight. I had to give up the info cause I hoped it would lead to Ina being lynched.

At this point, Ina confessed he is third party, but his roleclaim smells as bogus as him being silenced. If anything, it seems like a last ditch effort to save himself, but I guess we will find out when he flips.
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Your best bet would be to keep me around for sure.

If Nero survives another night, you know he's fully mafia aligned. No way they'd leave him alive twice.
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Inazuma
Oct 5 2016, 07:11 AM
Your best bet would be to keep me around for sure.

If Nero survives another night, you know he's fully mafia aligned. No way they'd leave him alive twice.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand called it.
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