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| Nero | Oct 4 2016, 04:37 PM Post #71 |
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I AM WEASEL
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Not like you have been helping at all. I'm done too, you may not be scum, but third party is just as dangerous. I know I am not lying, I know you are. That is the facts. |
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| Elizabello II | Oct 4 2016, 05:05 PM Post #72 |
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The reason I vote Dorry over inazuma is because as was discussed yesterday, lynching mafia precedence over lynching third party. The reason I want an update from ohm is because I want to know whether the numbers changed. If you get updated numbers it should be possible to tell whether we are still at one third party or not as well as any other alignment changes. If third party numbers grow then I would prioritize lynching inazuma. There really isn't much more to inazuma vs Nero. If a cop claims to have found a suspect, you lynch the suspect. Ina's passionate defense is honorable but it doesn't change this. Actually the intensity of the defense makes me worried that Ina still has a chance to reach or at least progress to his win con by staying alive and gaining another day/night. Aphelandra is interesting in her behavior as has been nicely summarized by Porsche and by Toto. I do want get the elephant out of the room though. @ aphelandra: Still not sure you get the initial issue. So does it say "you are aphelandra the vanilla town" or does it say "you are aphelandra the vanilla townie" Also, not sure about Richie. You seemed a lot more inclined to believe her yesterday than today. What changed? Finally, funkfreed. Would you agree that we should just ignore your actions until we have found the mafia role blocker? |
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| Nero | Oct 4 2016, 06:00 PM Post #73 |
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I AM WEASEL
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I agree with scum should come first when lynching, but I pointed out an wnemy to the town, we know who he is. Doesn't that trump the unknown? |
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| Inazuma | Oct 4 2016, 06:22 PM Post #74 |
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It's funny you say this, because I know my role too, and I see it from the other perspective. Absolutes are horrible, Nero. |
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| Elizabello II | Oct 4 2016, 06:23 PM Post #75 |
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I'm don't find dorry less obvious than gan fall. Regardless I'm okay switching to Ina, but it also depends on ohm, the rest of the town and whatever else happens today. This game is unusual in that there is almost a line of very reasonable lynch options. Too bad it doesn't appear that we have a vigilante judging by the nights so far. |
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| Elizabello II | Oct 4 2016, 06:24 PM Post #76 |
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Ina, if it wasn't you but somebody else in your situation what would you think town should do? |
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| Inazuma | Oct 4 2016, 06:27 PM Post #77 |
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I defend myself purely out of interest of wanting to continue the scum hunt. Would you not defend yourself, Elizabello? |
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| Inazuma | Oct 4 2016, 06:35 PM Post #78 |
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I would still be inclined to side with the person being reported on by Nero, due to the sheer coincidence factors alone. In your scenario, are we assuming the person was silenced on Day 1, and the same deaths happened on nights 1 and 2? If he was telling the truth, I'd feel he was hurting town still because you don't claim cop on Day 2. I don't care about the secret alignment. It means diddly squat until we're down to a lesser pool of players. All the mafia players remain in the clear in this truthful situation because they'd just kill him. If he was lying in that other situation, then he'd obviously be hurting town, but in two ways. One would be the obvious confusion and turmoil, and the mislynch on the player he was targeting. The other is making the potential real cop feel that they need to counterclaim, which is just a trap. All the negatives of the true situation apply here too. (The negatives of that truthful situation are what I think town should examine, by the way. It's all shoddy reasoning) Thankfully that other potential cop seems to be smart in this situation, and isn't falling into such a trap. |
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| Nero | Oct 4 2016, 06:42 PM Post #79 |
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I AM WEASEL
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I already said I jumped the gun when I ousted you Ina. It was just the infuriating way you were "silenced" that made me excited when I found out you were third party, not affiliated with anyone else. I figured that since I do count as mafia during the day, even if I was killed, i would make sure that an enemy to the town was ousted and we'd reduce mafia numbers. Even this early in the game, I would be happy to get rid of someone like me after I fufilled my usefulness. My win con is I win with town, and my mere presence hinders it wven if I am a cop. |
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| Johnny | Oct 4 2016, 07:13 PM Post #80 |
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Robert Townie Jr.
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Hoo boy. This Nero/Inazuma clash is really somethin'. As others have said, the easiest way to solve this is by lynching either of them. If Nero is right, it doesn't matter who we lynch, the mafia should kill the other. Why wouldn't they want a cop or Third Party killed? If Nero is lying, though, by killing him we don't necessarily confirm Ina's innocence, but he'd at least be a regular suspect, as most the rest of us are. If either was town, I'd prefer Nero, just for having a more useful power (that we know), but again, if he is town, Mafia will probably kill him so saving him might not matter. There is a possibility that they're mafia buddies, banking on one's death to confirm the other's innocence, but that again doesn't make sense, cause if Ina flips RED, then we know Nero lied, and he still gets the noose... There also is the possibility that NERO is a mafia-aligned role-reader type of role, and is setting himself up to look innocent by truthfully calling out Inazuma. Does that role exist? Complicating things is the abscence of a silenced person on Day 2, either trying to set up Ina to look like a liar or proving his scumness... Nero's report on me makes me slightly less suspicious of him, as it matches what I know, but of course, no one else can take that at face value. I'm more inclined to lynch Ina now, but I can't help but wonder if it will matter (besides clearing up confusion). As for Aphelandra, as Toto says, her claim of "Vanilla Town" rather than Townie is slightly off... Now that Nero has given his report on me, after saying he'd rather hold that info, if Nero gets vindicated, it can probably be inferred I have some sort of role (won't elaborate obviously, but let's just say it's nothing that major or else I wouldn't admit it at all). Add mine to Nero/Ina/Ohm/Funkfreed/Sandersonia, well, I'm starting to think Boa's theory of no Vanillas. And if that is true.... Aphelandra's claim is even more suspicious. Of course, I can't confirm that, and I'm not asking everyone else to come claim. But everyone think about it individually. If you are a Power Townie, and not on that list of users (Nero/Ohm/Ina/Johnny/Funkfreed/Boa)... that theory is becoming more credible. |
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