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Day 4 - Good Cop, Bad Cop, Gone Cop, Dead Cop
Topic Started: Oct 6 2016, 10:59 PM (1,416 Views)
Merry

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Oct 7 2016, 05:26 PM
That would be an argument if I didn't already soft-claim as a VT on Day 2, where I still believed Aphelandra. And that was pretty much pointed out by Toto and you in this very thread.

The only reason I mentioned maybe being the only one was, because there actually aren't many players left that haven't admitted to having some kind of role on their own yet.


Yes, apparently it was a soft-claim only after Toto brought up the possibility of it actually being a soft-claim.
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Oh ho ho, really guys? I prod at Richie a bit and this is where you end up taking it?

It was fairly obvious to me that Richie's wording in the post I referenced was basically admitting "I have the same role but my PM says something different." I just didn't bring it up until now because there was no need to bring attention to it. But now Aphelandra has been pretty much proven to have been lying, so it seemed relevant again -- especially since we still haven't seen any other vanilla claims or flips. I saw Richie lurking so I decided to see how he responded to my baiting. And honestly, his responses seem fine to me.

Porsche, I didn't force him to claim anything. He could have said he was just bluffing Aphelandra. But that aside, yes there have been too many claims, but who the heck cares about another vanilla claim right now? Enel knows we have enough confirmed or near-confirmed townies for the mafia to choose from, and ones who likely have powers to boot. And if Richie has a power role, he could be lying anyway.

That said I don't automatically believe Richie. But I honestly do not feel like going through the player list and grouping suspects or discussing the severity of my suspicions. At least, not on a day in which we have an obvious lynch to make. BUT, since the topic of Keimi came up, I will reiterate my point that I called her out as suspicious since Day 2 (for her Day 1 behavior, which is before she became so inactive), and my suspicion of her now, after inactivity and fluff posts, has her near the top of my list (after Aphelandra). Oh, and shall I remind you that after I declared slight suspicion of Keimi on Day 2, Aphelandra immediately came and asked me why I found her suspicious?

http://s15.zetaboards.com/Dungeon_Crawl_Mafia/single/?p=10003865&t=10030370

That one little question had me pegging them as scum buddies ever since.
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Merry

Nope, I was already looking for Richie's post where he gave some backup to Aphelandra's claim just after I finished sifting through Funkfreed's. Like I said earlier, Vanilla Town is the easiest role for Mafia to claim and hide behind *points at Aphelandra* and it makes it even easier in this case to claim if you're counterclaiming the Mafia after they've been outed.

'Hey, yeah, that's right! She's not a Vanilla Townie! I'm a Vanilla Townie! Probably the only one in fact![/i]

And, lol, of course he might be lying. By nature of this game I'm inclined to take everything people say with a grain of salt. Especially the most suspicious.
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I'm not sure what your post has to do with mine, ship-man, but at any rate I was addressing the entire conversation surrounding Richie that happened while I was gone. But yes, the one thing that's still rather odd, though unrelated to what I was asking about, is how quickly Richie decided to assume Aphelandra was telling the truth.
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Also, if we're going to dilly-dally and keep the day going, it is HIGHLY in the best interest of Keimi, Elizabello, Brulee, and Ohm to post (they are all currently no-shows). Brulee is somewhat cleared, but I would like her input, and hearing more from Dorry would be great too.
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Merry

Hmmm....

Well, anyway it's also relevant to look at Hareda's list of votes

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Lynch info:
Bold names lynched twice.
Gan Fall(10): Toto, Johnny, Sandersonia, Laki, Merry, Nero, Richie, Aphelandra, Ohm, Haredas (hammer)
Inazuma (9): Nero, Funkfreed, Merry, Aphelandra, Johnny, Toto, Dorry, Haredas, Elizabello II (hammer)

Players on both wagons(6): Aphelandra, Haredas, Johnny, Merry, Nero, Toto
Living players who have not helped lynch(3): Charlotte Brûlée, Keimi, Porsche,


I would like to ask Keimi when ever she comes on why haven't you voted to help lynch anybody and also, Porsche, who has been more active, why haven't you helped lynch? Even Today you haven't voted for a lynch even when we are not near a hammer and the target is most definitely Mafia.
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Oh ho... nobody other than Merry and I has posted in 5 and a half hours... this does not bode well. I don't feel like sitting around for another 24 hours of nobody new addressing the game.
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we are left with the following "not cleared as town": Elizabello II, Haredas, Keimi, Laki, Merry, Ohm, Porsche, Richie, Toto
who do we lynch tomorrow?
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That depends on

1) Who dies
2) Whether we get any night information
3) If anyone else decides they're going to claim or give reports
4) If the no-shows ever come back, since lynching inactive non-clears is eventually necessary regardless of alignment

Beyond that we've been discussing Keimi's scumminess and then the side issue of Richie, but as I said I'm not willing to go into more detail today. Not laying all my cards on the table earlier than needed when we have an obvious lynch.
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At the moment, unless she shows up here soon, I'm inclined to say Keimi. Even if she hadn't said some odd things in the two days that she was here, her complete absence makes her a liability, especially as we get down to fewer people and will likely need all the votes we can get.
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