| Day 5 - A Moment of Silence | |
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| Haredas | Oct 9 2016, 10:23 PM Post #11 |
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My opinion of everyone Dorry: double confirmed town. Elizabello II: Has only actually lynched Inazuma a (harmless) third party. Haredas: My gut feeling is that I don’t want to lynch this guy. He seems pretty cool. Johnny: Nero said he was Town so unless he has some kind of alignment switcheroo role he is probably town. Anyone want to chime in on this?. He loses points for not liking math however ![]() Keimi: she was super inactive, claims to be busy IRL. I don’t want to doubt an IRL excuse too heavily (I am not dropping it though) because I would like to think we are all good enough sports to keep our lying limited to in-game things. Some of her flip flopping raises eyebrows. Laki: Seems to follow similar thought patterns as me and seems pro town. The only thing that makes me doubt her (a bit) is her play feels almost too perfect and I would hate to lose based off possibly biased trust. Merry: ??? I still don’t have a read on the ship. But don’t think that means I won’t keep an eye on you! He played an aggressive game day1 and seems to keep pressure on people consistently. Ohm: my suspicions seem to grow every day. I would really like some answers and input from you, I hope you can manage to be more active. His stance went from 5 mafia rest town -> 5 mafia 1 third party -> 5 mafia 2 third party is it really an ability or does he know the mafia numbers and is just figuring out the rest (which explains his “mistake”) Porsche: Seems to be fairly active now. Good points are that she seems interested on gathering info and noticed my behaviour. Bad points: She also seems most active when we don’t have a solid lead on the mafia - is that to guard against slip ups on discussing scum-chums? Also doesn’t mention Richie in the not voting pattern when he has only been on the Gan Fall wagon. Richie: Has only lynched on Gan Fall. Not being on the Inazuma wagon does help his case IMO. He seems pretty set on staying out of the limelight but directing the spotlight onto other people. Also see his entire behavior regarding Aphelandra Toto: Pushed real hard for a Johnny/Inazuma lynch on day 1. It feels like he is determined to see lynches for the sake of lynches, placing more importance on reducing the number of players than the number of mafia. Also said he didn’t want to discuss future lynches yesterday because he wanted to not lay his cards on the table when we have an obvious lynch. I am not asking for a claim or anything but wanting to build a future case seems suspicious. |
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| Porsche | Oct 9 2016, 10:31 PM Post #12 |
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Nobody's saying that though. And don't turn the logic around here; just because you didn't vote for them, doesn't mean you are Town. Not by a long shot. Interesting chart Haredas, and how the hell do you do that with the little frames? But it mostly seems like you are just putting a lot of observations out there without adding your own insight or thoughts. Very unjudgmental of you, but I'd like to know who you think is suspicious after all that. Is there someone who catches your attention most (in a bad way)? |
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| Porsche | Oct 9 2016, 10:31 PM Post #13 |
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Ah how convenient, you read my mind before I posted. |
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| Richie | Oct 9 2016, 10:44 PM Post #14 |
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I have a question to some players who maybe have some more experience than I have: is it possible that the mafia members can converse during the day or that they could have talked between Day 0 and Day 1? And if yes, how likely is it, because that surely would change my viewpoint on a few things. Couldn't vote yesterday, because when I came on Aphelandra already lynched herself, preventing us from discussing further. My prime suspect hasn't changed since yesterday, being Keimi. Though I will still withhold from voting a short while. What I wonder however is why the mafia choose Brulee. Yes, she was pretty much confirmed town as a Mason. But so was Johnny, and he has the possibility of having a much more harmful role to the mafia. |
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| Haredas | Oct 9 2016, 10:45 PM Post #15 |
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Mission accomplished ![]()
[border=red,3]example[/border] = example also [bgcolor=lightblue]Something else cool[/bgcolor] = Something else cool All you kids who didn't grow up posting on message boards in the 90s when you had to type your own formating codes are spoiled ![]() And I didn't post my text dump earlier because the thread was already fast becoming the Haredas rambling thread |
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| Porsche | Oct 9 2016, 10:57 PM Post #16 |
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It's not unusual for Mafia members to be able to talk to eachother during the Day. But I think it's more often not the case. And you're asking whether Mafia members could have met/talked to eachother before Day 1 started? I definitely think so, yeah. Why, what do you have in mind?
Don't be discouraged to keep talking... I read your player analysis. You make some interesting points, but the grand conclusion seems to be that you "somewhat" suspect everyone... Ohm is the only one you outright say you suspect. Do you have any other reasons for this besides the number thing? And who would you team him up with for scumbuddies? |
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| Haredas | Oct 9 2016, 10:58 PM Post #17 |
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I am not that experienced and don't know how likely the mafia discussion thread is open during the day. From what I know Lovers and Neighbors usually can talk to whoever they are paired up with at any time. I know that feeling This also puzzles me. taking out Brulee also confirms that Dorry is town however killing Johnny would have left it unsure if Brulee and Dorry were telling the truth or if they were just foolish mafia running a high risk gambit. So they could have removed a potentially powerful role and left us still guessing. Unless I am missing something that seems like sloppy play. |
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| Porsche | Oct 9 2016, 11:06 PM Post #18 |
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I've wondered about that too, especially since Johnny is definitely the more active player here. Maybe the Mafia were worried about the fact that the Masons could talk to eachother? Or... maybe Johnny named one of them as a suspect, and they were afraid to look even more suspicious by killing him? |
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| Haredas | Oct 9 2016, 11:25 PM Post #19 |
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Part of the reason why I have not made any outright suspects is because I am still thinking about how many Mafia are left my theories change a fair bit depending on if there is 2 or 3 mafia remaining. I am 80% sure Laki is Town and don't seriously consider her to be mafia but I worry that I am just being led like a sheep due to hoping she is town. Johnny I am 98% sure is town because unless he managed to specifically fool Nero's report and not Ohm we would be left with 6 Mafia and 2 Third parties and 11 townies vs 6 mafia and 2 third parties seems unlikely. If you or Richie is mafia I find it plausible for you to be scumbuddies. Might have been a mistake (you forgot him) but it might have been a slip up when you covered for him. Ohm defended Aphelandra and was a no show on the day we lynched her which seems suspicious with how active and semi-agressive he was day 1 (and the other days to a lesser extent). He also defended Keimi a few times that seemed kind of strange how he went about it. If Ohm is mafia I think Keimi has a good chance of being his scum chum. It feels like he was most helpful when we didn't have any suspect lists to work from. Ohm/Richie or Ohm/Toto also seem like possible teams. I could also see a Merry/Toto/less active player(Elizabello?) scum trio where Merry and Toto play agressive and try to direct the lynch focus each day so far both of them have 3 non-town lynches as "good rep" Also not directly related I would like to say sorry to Dorry for being hard on you when it turns out you are just a new player... Day 2 you were my prime suspect but what I thought were scum-tells were just lack of experience heh. |
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| Keimi | Oct 10 2016, 12:45 AM Post #20 |
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Oh the IRL thing is definitely true, writing a research paper due tonight at the moment but being busy doesn't make me town or mafia. If you suspect me on others things, then that's fair. Speaking of those other things, I'm curious where you think I flip flopped.
Oh people have been insinuating that plenty. Also, please don't accuse me of turning logic around, never once did I say that my lack of voting makes me town, I simply stated that it didn't make me mafia. The whole point of me saying those things is that people who suspect me based off the voting or the inactivity have weak arguments. There is nothing solid to base it on since I haven't been around. So if that's your case it only makes me suspect you in return. If it's actually based off the little content I gave earlier then I'd cut you some slack. Take Ritchie for example, his suspicions started earlier then my absence, even if it was a bit OMGUS, but it gives him a bit more credit in my eyes. Speaking of Ritchie, that post I pointed out was definitely suspicious, but you've redeemed yourself in other areas and I'm almost positive now that you are town. |
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