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Day 6 - Stay Vigilant
Topic Started: Oct 12 2016, 04:31 PM (2,106 Views)
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Elizabello I will address your posts in a while.
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Oct 13 2016, 02:29 AM
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Oct 13 2016, 02:25 AM
if you promise to lynch Merry tomorrow if I flip townie I am even willing to vote on myself just to get this over with. Only if you guys promise I don't want to die a meaningless death.

I seriously think Richie is mafia though going for the Ohm lynch just makes him more of a suspect.

I think you are overreacting to having a single vote on you. I agree with you on Richie, but that might be more the reason to resolve the matter of you vs. Merry first. I'm going to step away for a while, then reconsider the day's events with a fresh mind and recommend a course of action.
No I am not over reacting about my vote however I do not have the tenacity to keep this going. I know that just "giving up" looks scummy which is why I am prepared for you guys to lynch me because I have nothing else I could say.

my prefered lynch order would be richie first and if you are still dead set on me vs merry do whatever you want.

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Oct 13 2016, 12:46 AM
Merry
[*]Why DID you jump to the conclusion of Bomb?


Mainly because what he described sounded exactly like my role and the vague consequences sounded more dangerous than wasteful. No other role I could think of would there be more dire consequences if they died than a Mafia killing a Bomb, and that's what it sounded like he was describing. For full context,

"I can assure everyone that it is in the best interest of both factions to keep me alive. Lynching me would put the mafia at an advantage, especially if there are 3 mafia remaining. However, if the mafia night kills me at this point unless the town is extremely bad and plays horrible, town will likely have an easy win. If you try to roleblock me before the kill I will have the last laugh. If the mafia reacts to these taunts and kills me they are seriously the sloppiest mafia I have seen."

The first line especially made me think of my role. Doctor, Nurse, Bulletproof, etc... don't fit that description. Town would be interested in keeping a Bomb alive and it would also be in the best interest of Mafia not to Night kill it. Of course Mafia would hope the Town kills it but that goes for every single Town role Mafia wants dead.

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[*]Do you think it's impossible for two to exist?


2 Town Bombs and a Mafia Suicide Bomber? Impossible? No. Very very very unlikely. Yes.

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[*]You said you didn't know about a gun, but by the time you claimed today, you DID already have Johnny's flip. So you could easily have gotten nervous about getting shot and made this up.


While this is true there was nothing really to be that nervous about. People called me suspicious but I never had any votes on me. The first vote of the Day wasn't even about me. I'd have to be pretty dumb to put all of this attention on myself and come out with my claim because I thought I might die when there was no foreseeable threat. I didn't do it to preserve my life. I did it because Haredas's post really sounded like a terrible slipup.

And I agree with him on Mafia's sloppy play this game. It looked like another sloppy and laughable play.

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[*]Conversely you probably should have claimed willingly before a (hopefully) townie decided to shoot you, losing us TWO townies and probably the game. Actually your statement about "if you really want to see, lynch me or shoot me" bothers me. Lynching you okay, you're the only death. But shooting you? Saying we can confirm by shooting you? That would be the worst possible idea if you're telling the truth. Why would you even suggest that?


Obviously, being lynched is preferable to a shot but they're both bad for Town. I didn't think I had to spell out the consequence of shooting me when I'm clearly saying I'm a Bomb just like I didn't point out the obvious consequence of lynching me because it'd be a mislynch. I only mentioned it because they're both Town ways of confirming me but, yes, I emphatically state, "Please don't shoot me. You'll die too."

Porsche
Oct 13 2016, 01:12 AM
Merry, why did Haredas' (soft)claim immediately make you think he was lying/scum?


Because of my own role reflected the description of his soft claim. I went into details in other posts but that's the barebones of it.

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But then Merry comes in today and ferociously attacks Haredas for his claim, because HE supposedly is the Bomb. Merry is that right? Is that why you went after Haredas?


Basically, yes. But there was no actual full on claim by Haredas. Just hints of it.
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Oct 13 2016, 02:30 AM
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Oct 13 2016, 02:25 AM
Also, I'm not excluding the option that both Haredas and Merry are town.
I'm definitely not going to rush to vote either.

I threw it out as a joke earlier but I think a mass claim could actually be beneficial now. Thoughts?

I don't care about claiming, it is possible Merry is town. I know I am town.
options:
a) We lynch me
b) We lynch Merry, if he flips town I will start my own wagon if you guys want.
c) We Mass claim
d) We lynch Richie
e) C & D
Okay, thanks. I think those are valid options, even though I'm not sold on Richie either. I'll take a break as well. This day has been exhausting so far and I need to sort my thoughts.
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Also I would rather be shot than lynched if that matters any. Lynch Merry Shoot Haredas.
I want to be able to go out like a champ.

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figured I might as well take the the swapped stance that Merry has on being shot.
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Elizabello II
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Wouldn't your shooter die too?
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Elizabello II
Oct 13 2016, 02:49 AM
Wouldn't your shooter die too?
If we are gonna stupidly lose we might as well do it with style. Also I know I am town and am willing to gamble on Merry flipping mafia.

Think of it this way:
Merry flips Mafia -> I am safe because he was lying
Merry flips bomb -> whoever shoots me will be safe.

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Merry

Actually, that's fine. Kill me first because my role is pretty useless right now except as a shield surrounded by doubt. But once I flip Town I'm holding you to start your own wagon Haredas. ;p

But if you are Town too you sacrificing yourself is giving Mafia the win, right? You would do that just to prove your innocence?
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Oct 13 2016, 03:00 AM
Actually, that's fine. Kill me first because my role is pretty useless right now except as a shield surrounded by doubt. But once I flip Town I'm holding you to start your own wagon Haredas. ;p

But if you are Town too you sacrificing yourself is giving Mafia the win, right? You would do that just to prove your innocence?

only if everyone is dead set on taking us out. Like I said I think richie is more likely at this point and have warned town that killing me is bad. I think at this point you clearly just jumped the gun. Why not try hunting the actual mafia before we both go down in a blaze of glory? If we get no other leads we can handle this like gentlemen and both keep our word to die.
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