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Day 6 - Stay Vigilant
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Dorry
Oct 12 2016, 08:10 PM
Has anyone seen Ohm online at all in the past few days? His dropoff definitely seems more like real life stuff instead of a mafia fadeaway.

The same question was asked yesterday and nobody had. So, Dorry, what are your thoughts today? Have you re-read any previous days? Anything seem off to you? Who are your main suspects right now?

Also Elizabello, since you say you count as mafia during the night... what's your gimmick? I'm not going to trust you so easily, oh ho.

Laki, how about some thoughts not related to online activity?

Merry, wouldn't you say catching scum is worth losing whatever edge your role gives you? Especially since it doesn't sound like you have anything else to show for 5 Days.

Today seems like it's turning into Merry vs. Haredas. At this point, unless Merry is just going off of an epic scummy misunderstanding, I'm going to assume one of the two is mafia. Even with 3 mafia alive, we have room for one more mislynch so we should catch at least one mafia between today and tomorrow. But if Elizabello is telling the truth then I'm starting to lean toward only 2 mafia.
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Oct 12 2016, 07:32 PM
Merry
Oct 12 2016, 06:59 PM
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Oct 12 2016, 06:18 PM
I come online to two people wanting to vote Ohm.


Umm...I'm not that worried about Ohm right now.

*points at vote*

I was referring to how you said you would vote Ohm if you didn't have something against Haredas.

Elizabello II
Oct 12 2016, 07:17 PM
The reason I vote him is because I think he's playing us. That his claimed/assumed ability is a cover up of some sort. Because if I had that assumed ability I would make sure to provide regular updates to town. That he is not active anymore doesn't help though because even if he is town then he's a town that is no longer around to vote. That makes lynching him less risky than lynching an active player that might or might not be mafia.
I really don't see it on the same level as the day 1 shenanigans of lynching anybody that doesn't post. Here the suspicion is based on the posts. The inactivity is a secondary aspect.

Okay... so his grand evil scheme was to claim a really unusual ability on the very first day of the game that actually seems reasonable in hindsight, and then disappear entirely? Never once logging in that any of us noticed for the better part of a week? Ooookay. I do think it's a real issue that he's absent, but I would feel way more comfortable trying to get at least one more scum before having to go for an inactive. That might give him a bit more time to show up anyway. Though actually, if we lynch scum today and Ohm still doesn't show his face, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to someone using that gun on him.
Keep in mind that this is a game were the color of bananas and the lack of two letters (ie) were scumslips. Taking an unwise stance on mafia numbers seems almost too normal in that case. I know that Ohm wasn't around to post the last couple days but even before his disappearance he didn't treat his "role" the way I'd expect which is what makes me doubt his claim. I do not intend to speculate on this all day and I personally would much rather identify the active mafia member(s). I've put the vote down on the next best option though.
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Not telling
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Elizabello II
Oct 12 2016, 08:19 PM
but even before his disappearance he didn't treat his "role" the way I'd expect which is what makes me doubt his claim.

Please elaborate. He updated at least once by saying nothing relevant had changed (which I'm assuming means he didn't suddenly detect an extra mafia or townie). He never answered when/how his power worked, but it's plausible he was trying to avoid being killed early. It's also entirely possible he's scum! I just don't feel he should be the current focus or anyone's top suspect.
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Elizabello II
Oct 12 2016, 08:20 PM
Not telling

Oh okay.

Vote Lynch: Elizabello II
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That really is the problem with my suspicion against Ohm. If I believe he's scum and he messed up on day1 than I have to accept 5 mafia. However, I'm personally leaning to 4 which would basically be supported by ohm's claim. I'm aware of that contradiction.
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Still not telling. What I revealed yesterday was beneficial to town. Revealing anything else isn't. You can waste the day to get more votes on me and look back on another pointless townie lynch but it won't help you win the game unless you are mafia.
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As Merry speaks with rather certain terms, I'm also inclined to lynch Haredasu. Merry already has some good town-cred with pointing out Aphelandra on Day 2 already. Though voting now would put us at L-3 already, so I'd like to wait still.

To be honest, I wanted to lynch Porsche before I read Merry's post - but that also has to do with the Haredasu situation a bit. What I am talking about is how the last 2 days have ended: both more or less by the hands of Porsche.
As pointed out yesterday, Aphelandra self-lynched herself merely 2 minutes after Porsche's vote.
And yesterday, after my post concerning Laki it was quiet for over an hour. However, suddenly posts by Laki, Haredasu and Porsche come in one after another. During which the latter two put down the last two votes dooming Keimi. If you look over it imo it looks very coordinated. And this post of Porsche here feels like a very staged moment to throw off suspicion to me.

Thus, I see Haredasu and Porsche as very likely scum buddies.
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Oct 12 2016, 08:24 PM
Elizabello II
Oct 12 2016, 08:19 PM
but even before his disappearance he didn't treat his "role" the way I'd expect which is what makes me doubt his claim.

Please elaborate. He updated at least once by saying nothing relevant had changed (which I'm assuming means he didn't suddenly detect an extra mafia or townie). He never answered when/how his power worked, but it's plausible he was trying to avoid being killed early. It's also entirely possible he's scum! I just don't feel he should be the current focus or anyone's top suspect.
It's exactly that part. If he hadn't come back to update his report, you could still think it's a one time thing (that he wasted on day1). Him coming back (hesitantly) turns his report into a role-claim. Meaning it is save to assume that there wouldn't be anything else related to the role. Consequently, he could have been more open in addressing the questions and in providing reports proactively. Him not acting in such a way is what makes me suspicious. It feels more like covering up.
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Good points Richie. I found the entire dynamic around Keimi's lynch rather weird. Haredas and Porsche did feel like coordinated rush lynching somewhat.
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