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Day 6 - Stay Vigilant
Topic Started: Oct 12 2016, 04:31 PM (2,111 Views)
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See all those typos I made? Pretend they didn't happen, ho ho. I am getting sloppy with my proofreading these days.
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Oct 12 2016, 10:27 PM
a) congratulations on making my prediction come true. It is still 100% on track.


If you're prediction was to look unnecessarily scummy then congrats.

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b) *whoooooooooosh*
You are either Mafia or have some of the worst reading comprehension I have ever seen. Not trying to be mean or anything but there are loads of ways you should have been able to interpret. You have also either missed my obvious breadcrumbs or are ignoring them because you are mafia and want to lynch a townie.


Sorry, but are you serious? Hahaha, who goes around claiming Vanilla Town like that? Are you actually claiming Vanilla Town!? Yes, I considered it but I didn't want to give you any excuses. That's the most backwards thing I've ever seen for such a simple role. It's almost like you're purposefully trying to be open and confusing here to later claim any general thing. That's not a trap for Mafia. That's just dumb (no offense) and it's for your own convenience. You don't think I considered your VT claim excuse? Did I outright say you were Mafia? No, what did I say? I said you were either Mafia or you were bluffing but I didn't want to give you an out you might not have considered like Vanilla Townie.

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a) I think Merry just doesn't like me (or is mafia and is looking for an easy target and is actually scared of whatever he thinks I am soft claiming and doesn't have the guts to night kill me)


I like you plenty if you're Town. Not so much if you're not. Also, the only time I can Night kill you is if you try to kill me at Night. That's the exact reason why I was asking Funkfreed about this so called 3rd Killer. Because I was inquiring if he somehow had some information on my role which, yes, is coming out below. With Ohm seemingly having game setup information I was a little wary of other players.

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My role:
-Passive
-Can not get role blocked.
-I have no daytime abilities.


Ok, my role:

-Passive
-Can not get role blocked
-I have no daytime abilities

So, yeah, Haredas that does leave you open to claim something other than Townie. Btw, if it isn't obvious enough already my role is Bomb. If I'm targeted at Night for a kill the killer dies along with me.

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I really want to know what role you are afraid I have that you are taking this counter-claim gambit. Congrats on derailing the day though if you are not sloppy mafia I want to nominate you for the most unhelpful townie of the game.


At worst I'm a Townie that jumped the gun but my ability hasn't helped us out thus far and I saw an opening. The way you're freaking out doesn't help you out either and only increases my suspicion.

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I will leave you guys up to figuring out if Merry is just scared Mafia or just a bad townie because I don't want to fall into the same OMGUS as him.


Too late for that, man, you're already there.

Haredas
Oct 12 2016, 10:31 PM
I was so obvious in my post that it would not even be a scumslip it would be an intentional scum-suicide.
which leaves us going by "merry logic" that I must be bluffing in which case what does the town possibly gain from calling this bluff? hint: nothing.


At the beginning of your post you said, "Not trying to be mean or anything but there are loads of ways you should have been able to interpret"

Now you're saying, 'Nah, it wasn't really open for a lot of interpretation. My post was pretty obvious.' Which one is it? You can't have it both ways and btw I agree with the former.
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Are you for real Merry? How bad IS your reading comprehension?

Now we do have a problem though because you just counter-claimed Haredas. And I have a hard time buying two bomb claims. I want to know what other people think though.
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Merry

It's easy to make that assumption Toto . Everything Haredas said Yesterday fit my role perfectly.

" I can assure everyone that it is in the best interest of both factions to keep me alive. Lynching me would put the mafia at an advantage, especially if there are 3 mafia remaining. However, if the mafia night kills me at this point unless the town is extremely bad and plays horrible, town will likely have an easy win. If you try to roleblock me before the kill I will have the last laugh. If the mafia reacts to these taunts and kills me they are seriously the sloppiest mafia I have seen."

And I'm well aware of Gan Fall's Suicide Bomber role. I had no idea about a gun though so if you all really want to see if I'm telling the truth you all can lynch or shoot me.
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Now I'm even more confused. Can you please restate simply, now that you've claimed, why you know for sure Haredas was lying (either bluffing or mafia)?
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Merry

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Oct 13 2016, 12:09 AM
Now I'm even more confused. Can you please restate simply, now that you've claimed, why you know for sure Haredas was lying (either bluffing or mafia)?


1. I can't possibly have known for sure unless he outright claimed. I said I knew he was lying to put pressure on him in case he was in fact lying.

2. I still don't know whether or not he's lying. He could have just been testing the waters to see if my role was out there and if THAT was the trap to help out Mafia then, that makes sense. Not whatever else he's talking about.
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Okay... well I have stuff I want to say but I feel like Haredas should reply, and everyone else for that matter.
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Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
Haredas
Oct 12 2016, 10:27 PM
a) congratulations on making my prediction come true. It is still 100% on track.


If you're prediction was to look unnecessarily scummy then congrats.
I will make it simple so hopefully everyone can understand: If I died instead of Johnny we would have the following:
Dorry, Elizabello II, Johnny, Laki, Merry, Ohm, Porsche, Richie, Toto

Suspects: Elizabello II, Laki(not too likely), Merry, Porsche, Richie, Toto(not too likely)

Oh hey without Merry being able to use me as a distraction there are less suspects and more time spent focusing on actual scum hunting. The number of confirmed townies is literally double and there are only 4 main suspects instead of all this time wasted on me. Mafia lost nothing in the night by not taking a gamble and killing me and gain an extra unconfirmed townie to hide behind.

2 confirmed with 7 unconfirmed we actually are left with 1 confirmed and 8 unconfirmed because Johnny is dead.
2/7 vs 1/8 you dig?

Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
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b) *whoooooooooosh*
You are either Mafia or have some of the worst reading comprehension I have ever seen. Not trying to be mean or anything but there are loads of ways you should have been able to interpret. You have also either missed my obvious breadcrumbs or are ignoring them because you are mafia and want to lynch a townie.


Sorry, but are you serious? Hahaha, who goes around claiming Vanilla Town like that? Are you actually claiming Vanilla Town!? Yes, I considered it but I didn't want to give you any excuses. That's the most backwards thing I've ever seen for such a simple role. It's almost like you're purposefully trying to be open and confusing here to later claim any general thing. That's not a trap for Mafia. That's just dumb (no offense) and it's for your own convenience. You don't think I considered your VT claim excuse? Did I outright say you were Mafia? No, what did I say? I said you were either Mafia or you were bluffing but I didn't want to give you an out you might not have considered like Vanilla Townie.
I am serious but still *woosh*. Nice job on picking the vanilla townie out of the possibilities and thinking I wouldn't be able to possibly think of it considering we already had 3 people claim it.
Also I would not ever claim Vanilla Town because that is not a role, that is what got a mafia lynched after I pointed it out.

If I am bluffing what does the town gain from calling me out on it? Nothing. What does the mafia get? another townie lynched.


Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
I like you plenty if you're Town. Not so much if you're not. Also, the only time I can Night kill you is if you try to kill me at Night. That's the exact reason why I was asking Funkfreed about this so called 3rd Killer. Because I was inquiring if he somehow had some information on my role which, yes, is coming out below. With Ohm seemingly having game setup information I was a little wary of other players.
This makes zero sense. You were worried people would find out you are a bomb and.... not kill you?

Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
So, yeah, Haredas that does leave you open to claim something other than Townie. Btw, if it isn't obvious enough already my role is Bomb. If I'm targeted at Night for a kill the killer dies along with me.
Cool, you are either super silly or lying.


Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
At worst I'm a Townie that jumped the gun but my ability hasn't helped us out thus far and I saw an opening. The way you're freaking out doesn't help you out either and only increases my suspicion.

a) at worst you are mafia
b) if you are town you already distracted us several time previous days and have caused a lot of confusion (see links in previous thread) and to top it all off are trying to waste an entire day with this nonsense about lynching me.
c) I am not freaking out. TBH I burst into laughter upon reading this thread.

Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
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I will leave you guys up to figuring out if Merry is just scared Mafia or just a bad townie because I don't want to fall into the same OMGUS as him.


Too late for that, man, you're already there.
Seriously? Do you even know what "OMG YOU SUCK!" posting means? Toto and Porsche have far more legit cases against me and I am civil about it. Those two are being logical you are just seeming angry that I posted the thing about seeing you online. I was not even using that as hard proof and actually raised the issue with mods before hand and asked if mentioning it would be frowned upon.

Merry
Oct 12 2016, 11:35 PM
Haredas
Oct 12 2016, 10:31 PM
I was so obvious in my post that it would not even be a scumslip it would be an intentional scum-suicide.
which leaves us going by "merry logic" that I must be bluffing in which case what does the town possibly gain from calling this bluff? hint: nothing.


At the beginning of your post you said, "Not trying to be mean or anything but there are loads of ways you should have been able to interpret"

Now you're saying, 'Nah, it wasn't really open for a lot of interpretation. My post was pretty obvious.' Which one is it? You can't have it both ways and btw I agree with the former.
Once again your comprehension is sad. It can be both things. 1)There are several ways you can interpret the post ex: Ascetic, Bomb, Bulletproof, Neighbor, Nurse etc all of which would make role blocking me hilariously pointless. 2)And the obvious part has nothing to do with the claim it has to do with the fact that making a post that says "The mafia should keep me alive" as an actual Mafia member is stupid. I was actually hoping on the off chance that the mafia would be stupid and waste their kill on me.


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Oct 13 2016, 12:19 AM
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Oct 13 2016, 12:09 AM
Now I'm even more confused. Can you please restate simply, now that you've claimed, why you know for sure Haredas was lying (either bluffing or mafia)?


1. I can't possibly have known for sure unless he outright claimed. I said I knew he was lying to put pressure on him in case he was in fact lying.

2. I still don't know whether or not he's lying. He could have just been testing the waters to see if my role was out there and if THAT was the trap to help out Mafia then, that makes sense. Not whatever else he's talking about.


1) Not lying. Didn't feel pressure. Good job with your logic: "I think this guy is bluffing so I will try to reveal that he can get killed by the mafia so that once they pick off the other confirmed townies they can kill him without worry" I hope you learn from this experience and don't make such a sloppy play next game.

2) I have been playing a manipulation angle the whole game I simply got a lot more direct since getting called out on it.
a) I am some kind of bomb/vengful role that can kill the mafia
b) I am bullet proof and laugh when they wasted their night kill and I am still alive.
c) My power has nothing to do with surviving a kill and I still laugh really hard that they wasted a role blocker and a kill on me while leaving Johnny and Dorry alive (and they have no idea what potentially powerful ability Johnny has so they risk leaving him alive)
d) I am legit the worst mafia player of all time and defied all odds to somehow not make a suicide post until day 6.
e) I bluffed hoping that the mafia would say "No way man we had the bomb on our team lets get this punk" and my death saved Johnny.
f) Do I really need to keep typing ideas?

going to get dinner be back in a while.
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Okay, I think I need to ask questions now.

Haredas:

  • Were you seriously hoping to draw a mafia kill after warning them about how horrible it would be? Over TWO confirmed townies? Wouldn't it have been much more effective to quietly hope they eventually killed you?
  • Merry kind of has a point that you could have been setting up an explanation for why you never get night killed.
  • Are you saying that the fact that Merry jumped to the conclusion of Bomb out of those choices instantly makes him scummy?

Honestly I feel like we lost an edge if you're telling the truth, and with Merry's claim we lost the same edge if you were just bluffing and he's telling the truth. It also does bother me how you are able to flip every suspicion against you as being a sly trap for the mafia or observation. It really does.

Merry

  • Why DID you jump to the conclusion of Bomb?
  • Do you think it's impossible for two to exist?
  • You said you didn't know about a gun, but by the time you claimed today, you DID already have Johnny's flip. So you could easily have gotten nervous about getting shot and made this up.
  • Conversely you probably should have claimed willingly before a (hopefully) townie decided to shoot you, losing us TWO townies and probably the game. Actually your statement about "if you really want to see, lynch me or shoot me" bothers me. Lynching you okay, you're the only death. But shooting you? Saying we can confirm by shooting you? That would be the worst possible idea if you're telling the truth. Why would you even suggest that?

Merry is probably still my choice right now of the two in terms of a lynch.

Also this gun talk reminded me, Porsche asked whether we should take a vote on who to shoot. I think that's a good idea, although it might be wiser to wait until we have a clearer direction in terms of who we're going to lynch?
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