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Day 6 - Stay Vigilant
Topic Started: Oct 12 2016, 04:31 PM (2,109 Views)
Elizabello II
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Haredas - you've set before that you've set up some clever scheme/trap. The first time was when you explained why you didn't vote the two scum slips immediately. Can you remind me how that was a clever scheme?
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Merry

Crap, I'm on my phone and I screwed up some all of the quotes I was responding to. Fixing now.

Haredas
 
I am serious but still *woosh*. Nice job on picking the vanilla townie out of the possibilities and thinking I wouldn't be able to possibly think of it considering we already had 3 people claim it.
Also I would not ever claim Vanilla Town because that is not a role, that is what got a mafia lynched after I pointed it out.

If I am bluffing what does the town gain from calling me out on it? Nothing. What does the mafia get? another townie lynched.


Dude, Vanilla Town is a role which is different from a powerrole. Come on now and you're forgetting that Keimi was actually a Vanilla Town . Richie is claiming VT. Claiming that role in this stage of the game is not an automatic lynch.

And if you're bluffing it would be obvious you'd do it to keep yourself alive. IF you're Town and Mafia thinks there's harm in seeking you out at Night that's protection. I don'tknow how you don't see that or are ignoring that.

Also, you never asked Town to call you out on it. The only reason why I called you out on it was because it seemed to completely counter my role.

Haredas
 
This makes zero sense. You were worried people would find out you are a bomb and.... not kill you?


Uhhh...yes? I was worried about Mafia knowing whether or not there's a Bomb at play and being on the lookout. Because, you know, as a Bomb you do want to die at the hands of the Mafia.

Haredas
 
Cool, you are either super silly or lying.


Hey, that's my line to you. You can't take my line silly. (Alright, honestly, this wasn't that important to repost)

Haredas
 
a) at worst you are mafia
b) if you are town you already distracted us several time previous days and have caused a lot of confusion (see links in previous thread) and to top it all off are trying to waste an entire day with this nonsense about lynching me.
c) I am not freaking out. TBH I burst into laughter upon reading this thread.


Sure, man, you're happy. I get it. At least that's one thing we share. But, again, I don't count my vote and this discussion as a distraction. And from the sounds of it you either think I'm an unhelpful Townie or Mafia and yet you haven't put vote on me? Why? What's stopping you?

And don't give me that 'I want to do some actual Mafia hunting' or 'I don't want to look like OMGUS' excuse. Again, too late for the latter. Right now it looks to me like you're just conveniently waiting for someone else to put a vote down on me before you jump in.

Haredas
 
Seriously? Do you even know what "OMG YOU SUCK!" posting means? Toto and Porsche have far more legit cases against me and I am civil about it. Those two are being logical you are just seeming angry that I posted the thing about seeing you online. I was not even using that as hard proof and actually raised the issue with mods before hand and asked if mentioning it would be frowned upon.


Civil? I'm not being uncivil. And angry? Haredas , your post about me possibly being Mafia because you saw me on the board a lot wasn't anger inducing. It was funny. Seriously, I don't want to bog our play with any perceived issues against one another. We're just playing a game and trying to figure everything out.

Haredas
 
Once again your comprehension is sad. It can be both things. 1)There are several ways you can interpret the post ex: Ascetic, Bomb, Bulletproof, Neighbor, Nurse etc all of which would make role blocking me hilariously pointless. 2)And the obvious part has nothing to do with the claim it has to do with the fact that making a post that says "The mafia should keep me alive" as an actual Mafia member is stupid. I was actually hoping on the off chance that the mafia would be stupid and waste their kill on me.


Right, you're not understanding or refusing to understand that in light of my role one big thing kept sticking out for me. Why would anyone try to roleblock and kill something unless they're afraid there could be some harm done to them during the killing? To me the word BOMB stuck out the most.
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Merry

Also, if there were any questions before my post I'm not ignoring them. I just haven't had time to read anything past Haredas's reply. Reading now.
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Haredas
Oct 13 2016, 01:22 AM
No it just makes him probably a bad player who is tunneling on me because of a comment I made. Keep in mind we had 2 identity stealing roles and at least 2 bomb-esque roles what makes more sense to assume that I could be any number of things I intentionally left vague or to assume that I must be refering to 1 role only and there is no way I could have any kind of overlap in the function it has?

I like you, but I'm starting to not believe you. You very heavily claimed precisely bomb with your "having a blast" comment (centered and italicized). My guess is you worried it wasn't obvious enough toward the end and just came full on with the taunt. So the problem is, you keep claiming you were being vague and could have been interpreted many ways, but this is false. Furthermore, your reaction to Merry has been much more aggressive and insistent thus far than any other suspicions of you.

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Porsche
Oct 13 2016, 01:26 AM
How am I not paying attention to what's going on? I literally just made a whole post about the Merry/Haredas thing.

And I can't help it that I have stuff to do outside of this game - I wish I could check in more regularly, but I can't. Why does it matter anyway if the Day goes on a little longer? The only people who benefit from the Day ending soon are the Mafia.
For one, you're asking for confirmation about a situation that has already been very specifically questioned and confirmed. Second, I was asking Haredas and Merry about the ambiguity of assuming Bomb, very intentionally leaving out the "blast" phrase because... well, see the first part of my post.

No harm in prolonging the day as long as we actually get a wagon going and people are able to wait for you and hammer. You might not be the only busy one. But also what's the point in coming in at the last minute to say stuff? You afraid of being night killed? You're probably at the bottom of the mafia's list of who to kill next, assuming you're a townie. At any rate, if you don't have the time to be around all day that's fine. But when you DO have time, at least don't rush your posts out.

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Elizabello II
Oct 13 2016, 01:02 AM
A double bomb claim. This game continues to surprise. I saw that Haredas was having a blast yesterday. But I wasn't sure about his intentions. Claiming bomb can protect you from a night kill. At the same time not claiming bomb and drawing the mafia kill can help eliminate the mafia killer. In our current situation I would have preferred the second option as we haven't really narrowed down the remaining mafia. Since he went with claiming I wasn't sure whether he was bluffing to protect himself.
The other option might just be that he was bluffing to explain his continued survival. That's the option that makes him scum.
Have either he or merry been dropping any hints prior to yesterday?


I had a blast day one:
http://s15.zetaboards.com/Dungeon_Crawl_Mafia/single/?p=10003307&t=10027684
it hurts my feeling that people think I would be such a bad player that I would think I needed an excuse on why I survive nights. :ninja:

and @merry no if Toto and all had not said they wanted to hear from me I was just going to ignore you. I am not going to quote your post because it is a mess. However your reading comprehension does need lots of work. You are reading things into my posts that are not there. OMGUS is voting someone because they made you mad or pointed out an issue about you. I have not voted you and somehow you twist me saying that I am being civil into me claiming you are being uncivil.

please preview your posts to make sure everything is in order.
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Elizabello II
Oct 13 2016, 01:26 AM
Toto
Oct 13 2016, 01:19 AM
Porsche
Oct 13 2016, 01:14 AM
I have to go now for about 14 hours so I hope things don't get too explosive in the meantime. Heh heh. No seriously don't end the day without me.

Honestly I'm getting tired of you dropping in a couple times a day to drop big posts that don't pay much attention to what's going on and my open questions to the players in question, then disappearing for massive amounts of hours and telling us not to end the day without you. Either play, or don't. I'm not going to wait up for you...
I've never agreed more with you. Porsche saying that she has many other things to discuss without mentioning a single one of them and then saying she'll be gone for 14 hours annoyed the hell out of me. She could at least have made her points. She had plenty of time for a long post that didn't add anything to this.
I have made my points, have you read my posts?
Seriously I don't understand why you specifically keep getting on my case for dumb shit. It's not like you have been all that helpful to Town yourself. You're going after the completely inactive Ohm, making a vague claim about counting as Mafia at Night, and then the weird accusation to me about a coordinated hammer with Haredas? I know this comes across as OMGUS, but I really don't need to hear criticism from the likes of you. I should be telling you to pay attention to the things that matter here.
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Haredas has a valid point regarding the numbers. I don't want to screw up today's lynch. We have the lynch, the gun and the usual mafia kill so worst case we loose 3 townies by the time the next day begins. If there are three mafia that would already be game over. If there aren't then it would still be dangerously close.

I also haven't forgotten about GanFalls JOAT claim and am at least somewhat concerned that he used that claim because somebody on the mafia team actually has the role. He was really clumsy in his fake claim making me think he could have gone for that option. In that case it would not be farfetched to assume that mafia might have access to an additional kill.
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@merry ignore my complaining about your post I see you fixed it.

Toto
Oct 13 2016, 01:36 AM
Haredas
Oct 13 2016, 01:22 AM
No it just makes him probably a bad player who is tunneling on me because of a comment I made. Keep in mind we had 2 identity stealing roles and at least 2 bomb-esque roles what makes more sense to assume that I could be any number of things I intentionally left vague or to assume that I must be refering to 1 role only and there is no way I could have any kind of overlap in the function it has?

I like you, but I'm starting to not believe you. You very heavily claimed precisely bomb with your "having a blast" comment (centered and italicized). My guess is you worried it wasn't obvious enough toward the end and just came full on with the taunt. So the problem is, you keep claiming you were being vague and could have been interpreted many ways, but this is false. Furthermore, your reaction to Merry has been much more aggressive and insistent thus far than any other suspicions of you.

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I am sad to see you make this mistake I thought you were a better player. I have not been agressive towards others suspicious of me because other people have had legit points. I have been more insistent because it keeps being brought up.

Honestly at this point if you guys want to lynch me go ahead it is your loss. I am 100% without a doubt flipping town. I don't know what else to say aside from the fact that I think Merry is probably not Mafia just bad. If you lynch me I hope Merry is ready to carry this shame for a long time.

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Haredas
Oct 13 2016, 01:48 AM
I am sad to see you make this mistake I thought you were a better player. I have not been agressive towards others suspicious of me because other people have had legit points. I have been more insistent because it keeps being brought up.

Honestly at this point if you guys want to lynch me go ahead it is your loss. I am 100% without a doubt flipping town. I don't know what else to say aside from the fact that I think Merry is probably not Mafia just bad. If you lynch me I hope Merry is ready to carry this shame for a long time.

So you won't even answer the part about how you were claiming to be ambiguous when you weren't? Is everyone who doesn't instantly see through everything you do a bad player?

Also, now would be a good time to share your thoughts on who we should lynch today, if you don't suspect Merry anymore.
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Oct 13 2016, 01:36 AM
For one, you're asking for confirmation about a situation that has already been very specifically questioned and confirmed. Second, I was asking Haredas and Merry about the ambiguity of assuming Bomb, very intentionally leaving out the "blast" phrase because... well, see the first part of my post.

No harm in prolonging the day as long as we actually get a wagon going and people are able to wait for you and hammer. You might not be the only busy one. But also what's the point in coming in at the last minute to say stuff? You afraid of being night killed? You're probably at the bottom of the mafia's list of who to kill next, assuming you're a townie. At any rate, if you don't have the time to be around all day that's fine. But when you DO have time, at least don't rush your posts out.

Come on, that was obvious. And the role of Bomb had already been mentioned several times before I made my post.

The reason I said to wait was not so much "wait for me so I can hammer", but just in general, to make sure enough discussion would be had.
And when I get the opportunity to be online and make long posts, I am going to. I can't believe I'm getting flak for that. It's just very tiring because it seems like I'm in a different timezone from most other players, and I always have to come back to so much stuff happening and I want to comment and formulate my thoughts on everything, even on things the others might feel are not that relevant anymore.
So this is how I post. The alternative is me not posting at all. An easy choice to me.
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