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| What do you do if you are Gay and Christian | |
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| Topic Started: 2 Oct 2008, 07:18 PM (1,916 Views) | |
| Sharkie0101 | 2 Oct 2008, 07:18 PM Post #1 |
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| ARAZEC | 4 Oct 2008, 01:11 AM Post #2 |
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have you read about the city of sodom in the bible? my beleif is no one can really answer a question about whos going to hell or not so i hope that helps if what you were asking was does anyone think its "sinfull" my beleif is that god intended man (husband) and women (wife) to have sex and if you look at how we are designed to naturally procreate its pretty hard to argue. so in my understanding as any type of sin seperates us from god and that all sin eventually leads to dealth we are all dammed unless we accept jesus as our lord and saviour. thats what i beleive i have friends that are gay and others that were gay whose beleifs differ they accept me accepting them and not agreeing with all their beleifs or choices and vice versa. |
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4 Oct 2008, 06:41 AM Post #3 |
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It says clearly in the Bible how God feels about gayness. But when you become a Christian, aren't you supposed to turn away from the desires of the world and follow him? So the proper thing to do would be to give up being gay, right? |
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My Command is this:Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he should lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:12-13 That's a mighty wicked place. Tilt-a-whirl's okay, but the rest is pure wicked. Hell have no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned Now boarding stand by passengers | |
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| ARAZEC | 4 Oct 2008, 10:23 PM Post #4 |
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well that says a lot |
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| Cronos | 6 Oct 2008, 08:47 PM Post #5 |
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Okay, first off GOD LOVES EVERYONE. Isn't that fact? Be yourself, gay, lesbian, whatever! God WILL love you, accept you, care for you. Don't let ANYONE tell you otherwise. If anyone says "give up being gay" to you, they are the ones committing sin by making you feel the way you do about the way God made you. And for the record, giving up a sexual preference isn't really a simple task...what if I told you to give up being straight? Yeah...thought so. Edited by Cronos, 6 Oct 2008, 08:50 PM.
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7 Oct 2008, 11:22 AM Post #6 |
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First off, God didn't make people be gay. They chose to be gay. If you chose to do something you can easily quit. Take my boyfriend's cousin for example. He used to be gay and now he is going out with someone who used to be a lesbian. They are both straight now and very happy. Secondly, I never said God would not accept them. Read the entry before you go on a rant. He loves you just the way they are. He doesn't like the act. Last there is a verse in the bible that says quite clearly to turn from the ways of the flesh and follow him. |
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My Command is this:Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he should lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:12-13 That's a mighty wicked place. Tilt-a-whirl's okay, but the rest is pure wicked. Hell have no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned Now boarding stand by passengers | |
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8 Oct 2008, 12:05 AM Post #7 |
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1 Corinthians 13 speaks of love and God's unconditional love. And then we hear also about God's wrath in so many examples written in His word. This synergies' His unconditional love. For who could a God of love say it's okay to commit adultery, who could a God of love say it's okay to commit murder. All these acts fall into the category of sin. Sin falls into the category of not abiding to our designed function. If we are designed to reproduce, that my bodily organs be designed for a woman, and vice versa, than the question "What do you do if you are Gay and Christian" falls under a broader question "Why do people rebel against the way they are made?" I don't really have an answer to this question, I just don't know how men and women could have such a perspective on the same gender. I really believe strong heartedly that God did an amazingly fantastic job on the woman. There can be so many different emotional reasons why people turn gay and lez, it is a very touchy subject, but who ever said relying on your emotions is the way to go? I'll be very broad about this, God blessed men with a penis and women with a vagina, you do the math. Can I have a witness? Edited by Patrick Majewski, 9 Oct 2008, 02:31 PM.
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8 Oct 2008, 08:35 AM Post #8 |
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My Command is this:Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he should lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:12-13 That's a mighty wicked place. Tilt-a-whirl's okay, but the rest is pure wicked. Hell have no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned Now boarding stand by passengers | |
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9 Oct 2008, 02:07 PM Post #9 |
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Hey Cronos how do you do that bold letter thing? |
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I say nay, therefore I am I am what brings yaysayers to their demise and force them to submit to demands of MINE OWN! Therefore, logic of nay is the hope that brings light and also forthcomes with devastation yay, because who decided hate was better than purity? Who decided purity was better than hate? | |
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| ARAZEC | 13 Oct 2008, 07:03 PM Post #10 |
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hey Cronos !!!!!! where'd you go now???  didnt expect to see the V & P words thrown around here like that O.K well there just happens to be this great book called- "Craving for love" -relationship addiction,homosexuality and the God who heals..... by Briar Whitehead (Monarch Books-USA Kregal Publications Grand Rapids,Michigan 49501 & UK Carlisle,Cumbria CA3 0QS) The lady that wrote this book has interviewed thousands of people ex-gay,gay you name it she covers it in tis book its if you struggle with homosexuality or know someone who does or want to find out what someones lifes work studying it from a Christian perspective is i would reccomend this book. its verrry interesting and pretty in your face with heaps of true interviews with gays,lesbians,many ex-gays,wives of gays,and leaders in the ex-gay movement ...heres something from the Forward by Frank Worthen (this blokes been an ex-gay for over 30 years) - "the correct response to homosexuality is not condemnation and blame. homosexual people do not ask to be homosexual:(******hey didnt Cronos say that ???) ......... they are the product of a corrupt and dysfunctional culture.This book has a compassionate message to those who take the time to read it. It is our responsibility to make an investment in understanding the condition.Surprisingly,the answer is not in acceptance as our permissive generation would suggest,because that only leads to more sorrow and pain.Rather than providing a connection,a sense of belonging and acceptance,the rejection found in the "gay" world actually far exceeds any rejection from hetrosexual society" anyway good read just a quick thing about "ex-gay" they make a point about this term describing a process and its used in the book to cover people in all stages of transition who are SEEKING TO BECOME HETROSEXUAL IN ORIENTATION AND PRACTICE. I just put that in cause there is an alternative if you feel "gay" or are living a life and desire change there are different paths you can choose if you "gay" or feel "gay" and are reading this dont judge me cause i love ya heaps and heaps and heaps 
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| incagold78 | 14 Oct 2008, 10:26 AM Post #11 |
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if sin is sin, and it is all the same to God, then isn't being gay (either by choice or being made that way- you choose) and christian, the same as being a drug addict and christian? Or an alchoholic, or pornographer, or even someone who curses and a christian? God loves you and accepts you as you are period. The point of being a Christian from there is to strive to live a life after the example and teaching of Christ. So yes we are to turn from sin, but not being perfect we will fail and fall, but like Paul said, we are to stand firm in the faith. So we pick ourselves up, repent and keep pushing forward. So if you are Gay, no you should not stay that way, but its not as easy saying just stop choosing it,especially if that has been your lifestyle for several years, or some real bad stuff happened to you that resulted in you living that way. So don't be condemned because your gay or lez, that is never from God. But knowing that is not how we were created to live work on changing that lifestyle, just like a drug addict has to work on being clean. God loves us all, and love doesn't condemn, but it does challenge us to be the best of what we can be. |
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| Alaynora | 23 Oct 2008, 10:40 PM Post #12 |
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I personally find nothing wrong with being gay. Bodies, in my point of view, are earthly things. Therefore, the need to reproduce is earthly. And since we have like, 6 billion people in the world, reproduction is not high on our "to-do" lists. Anyways, I believe that our souls are genderless, therefore, who cares what gender you're attracted to. Love comes in many forms, baby. And even if you don't believe that being gay is right, I don't believe that you should force your views on a gay person. Some homosexuals that I have met and interviewed for an essay were very shy and uneasy talking about who they were attracted to. All of them were christians, and all of them had endured crud from fellow church members, parents, family member, etc. I'm starting to ramble. One more thing, has anyone read that article that shows evidence that there is a gay gene in a homosexual's body? The scientists are trying to find it...Plus, there are other animals besides humans that can be homosexual, or have been observed doing homosexual acts. Like chickens. And monkeys. I'll try and find articles on it. I don't know if they are on the internet or not, however. Hmm.. |
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24 Oct 2008, 05:07 PM Post #13 |
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God made our bodies a certain way. If he did not mean for you to be attracted to the opposite sex he would have made you the opposite sex. As for the gene that makes you gay, scientists have not found it, have they? |
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My Command is this:Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he should lay down his life for his friends. -John 15:12-13 That's a mighty wicked place. Tilt-a-whirl's okay, but the rest is pure wicked. Hell have no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned Now boarding stand by passengers | |
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| ARAZEC | 25 Oct 2008, 04:17 AM Post #14 |
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 i dont understand ????? i say i love people and you get comments like "foricng your views" this is a debate we are all supposed to have a view but i find as soon as i identify myself as a christian if people have a different view they get really defensive.....enemy at work i say !anyway the bit about the animals mentioned by alaynora........... in the bible god refers to man and women not chicken and monkey.We are meant to be rulers and caretakers of the beasts and creatures God created not imitate them-thats why beastiality and other sexual acts that stray from Gods intent are considered perversions-it says in the bible that of all the animals that roamed the earth none were found as a suitable mate for Adam so he caused him to fall into a deep sleep and took one of his ribs and made Eve. Adam previously given the task of naming all that god had created called her women because she had been taken/made of man. Why do you think there is Shame and uneasyness in a person attracted to the other sex? In todays society if you follow the ways of the world there are many places that embrace and encourage Homosexuality as an alternative normal and natural choice yet the evidence and statistics tell a different storey......misery,high suicide rates,depression surely it cant ALL BE the crud of christians....... I hope you post again..... I really dont get it why so many people join and post once? |
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| Alaynora | 27 Oct 2008, 02:16 PM Post #15 |
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Lol, I wasn't going to post just once. I usually just read. And I wasn't referring to you personally when I said the "forcing your views", lol. It's just that I get rather heated with the whole gay debate. Like 10-20% of my friends are gay/bisexual, and I don't see why people believe that it is so wrong. As long as they don't trouble other people, what difference does it make what they do in private? Here's a link to a WebMD article on the gay gene. Unfortunately, it was not the article that I was looking for, but whatever. http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20050128/is-there-gay-gene Many characteristics of humans can be found in certain animals. However, we are very different because of our advanced brain and other physical differences. We also don't act on instinct. I forgot to mention that there are NO animals that are COMPLETELY gay. At least, not that I've heard of, lol. Usually the animals that have been documented..."getting it on" with the same gender are simply releasing sexual tension that builds up. There are several cases of monkeys being straight gay for a loooong while, but they eventually went back to the other sex. Again, I believe that genders are only worldly things, made so that the planet can reproduce. I do know about the part in the bible that says something along the lines that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Again, I have to bring up my personal beliefs. I do not believe that the bible is the word of God. Only the parts where he is directly quoted. The bible is more of a guideline written by educated for being a good christian and achieving closeness with God. However, it was written a loooong time ago. Morals back then are not the same as they are now. Well, the basic morals are the same (no killing, no stealing, etc). There were diseases, superstition, and other things, and the need to reproduce was important. It isn't now. Heck, we're getting a bit too populated. Erm...A bit off topic, but there's a webcomic out called Jack that I found interesting. It's a very religious, if dark, story There's one story arc that has gay characters and what they think. WARNING: This comic is very gory, has cursing, nudity. Two characters appear that you won't know if you haven't read the other arcs, just ignore them. The story is why I'm posting this. It begins with a retelling of the Book of Job. Here: http://www.pholph.com/arcview.php?ID=1184 |
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