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Inter religious Courting; Should we restrain ourselves to our own?
Topic Started: 23 Apr 2009, 10:56 PM (4,435 Views)
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i totally disagree with Concolors statement "Knowledge is detrimental to faith"
thats not a biblical view of faith - its just the opposite
“be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you” (1 Pet 3:15)

The hope we have is for reasons -beleifs have reasons -if you beleive things for no reason you will fall for anything !!!! or for the wrong reasons.....bad

Faith is about trust
trust is about knowing
knowing is about relationship
relationship with Jesus and knowing him

So faith detrimental to knowledge ??? a a
no one would gain knowledge just by believing something that happens to be true.
But what if you know that it is ?- then you have gained knowledge because you know !
when you know Jesus you trust his intentions & know his love which is reason for your faith.


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Concolour, I think that generally being in the presence of non-christians is a great thing. If you live a spirit filled life people will see that and come to faith through you! thats AWESOME! So whatever you do in life dont distance yourself from people of other faiths or athiests but show them the Good News as a spirit filled witness! But to have a relationship with a women who doesnt share the same things as you would be asking for trouble. What would you do if you were going out with a girl and she was critical of you because you played football every day...would you love her enough to say ok I wont play football so much or would you kick her into touch! Football for me is something great, but I hope my love of God is greater than my love of football, so I would never let a girl come between me and something I love such as football and there is even less of a chance of me letting her come between me and God :D. Little comparison there :D (see what i did with the kick into touch :D. O and by the way I like Football 'english style'.

If you want knowedge read proverbs :D. My favourite proverb is Proverb 3:1-6! have a read over it :D
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OMG !!!! IVE SEEN PPL LIKE YOU ON THE TELE !!!

you mean soccer? English Football right? not real footy-Rugby League ??? :D

Well anyway you are forgiven

Its funny tho cause Concolor is the forums resident Atheist so its good to know he can spend some time with himself ;)

im srry i dont know whats gotten into me.....its the love of sport comment thats thrown me ..... (never been a sports widow myself :) ) .....misguided passion.....so many causes crying to be heard....dum do dee dum dum.. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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Can't you make that statement about a lot of things? I'm very passionate about my work - in fact I spent more than 36 at work (I just woke up, its 6 pm).

You needn't be a Christian to have things in your life that are so important to you that you become an inconsiderate lover. I've rushed out on a date in the past because of work (admittedly, the date wasn't going anywhere but hey, the point stands).

Maybe its something YOU need to work on, rather than their problem?
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@conradw: Yes, you can make that statement about a lot of things. Mr_JJ just made it about both his religion and football :)

And if Mr_JJ wants to put his religion and football before his girl, then he is most certainly free to do so, just like you're allowed to put your job before your girl. Just don't expect many girls to be very happy with that :D

@Mr_JJ: You're quite right. The proverbs give knowledge...about the proverbs. Just like asking your preacher what he thinks about heaven and hell gives you his thoughts about heaven or hell. Ask another preachers his thoughts, and you'll get another answer. If you want knowledge about other religions, hang with people of different religions. My point is that you can't convert to a religion you do not know about. So if you want a zero probability of converting you should not seek knowledge about other religions.
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Maybe its something YOU need to work on, rather than their problem?
who said anything about problem ?? i totally miss your point :blink: :blink: unless you are meaning Mr JJ "s coment about asking for trouble dating a girl who is critical of her man playing footy everyday- that is a problem- not participating in something opposed to being critical of something - I'd say a critical spirit as in continously looking for fault would be a character problem-one that may be easily transferable to other things i suppose.

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My point is that you can't convert to a religion you do not know about. So if you want a zero probability of converting you should not seek knowledge about other religions.


i dont agree with the statement that you will have a zero probability of converting if you stop yourself from seeking knowledge about other religions.
You dont need to seek things for them to find you-quite often the more you try to not seek the more knowledge will chase you-like it or not !

you can choose to not acknowledge but does that mean you stop knowing?

@condraw i was wondering why you are passionate about your work ?
i was interested in what meaning you attach to your work...............




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you can choose to not acknowledge but does that mean you stop knowing?
You are of course absolutely correct in that knowledge can find you even if you try to avoid it. My point was that if you have no knowledge about a certain religion, your chances of converting to it is practically zero. If you want to avoid this you should avoid knowledge of other religions, even if this knowledge might find you your chances will be better if you do not actively seek it.
Life is beautiful, love heals, people come through.

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Hey Conradw, Yes that statement is a general arguement statement :D but the point stands that if you have a real passion that is not understood, and often misunderstood surely that would be a problem, because then people will become critical 'quote of an ex, I cannot believe you would rather go to church then spend time with me'. And exactly work is a good example, you should never let a woman/man come between you and your work because work is something that YOU HAVE TO DO! Although I did let a women come between myself and God!

In fact I stopped going to church for a number of years after that was said by an ex...:-( I lost my faith alittle because I fell in love with someone who thought that It was stupid me going to church when I should have been seeing her, SOOO BAD! I had only been a christian for a year prior to meeting her and was still very juvinile in my faith, I didnt know about God and had never been touched by his spirit. I rekindled my faith 6 months ago, 3 years after we seperated...when I decided that God was lacking in my life and I am getting baptised this sunday! woo :thumbs:
So going out with someone for me who wasnt a christian completely screwed up how I came to faith! I am know going out with a girl who is a christian, and we can share our faith and learn about God from each other.
I find that sharing my faith with someone I care about is infinitely better than fighting my faith on someone I care about! Hope that helps people alittle!
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yay !!
a baptisim !! welcome to the next phase of your life bro !!

love it -makes me want to dig up my old baptisim avatar picture :D :D makes me think -stuff you devil another one doesn't bite the dust. ;)

so what are you wearing?
oh and are you going the pool,pond,river or ocean? :D :D :D (you will get used to my humor after a while ;) )
oh smile 5 laughing emoticons in one post :D six :D seven :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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Congratulations on your baptism.

As for the work I do - well technically I'm still studying, but I've finally reached a point where I can actually help out rather than only bury myself in a book. I enjoy it.

But I would say this. Don't let anything get between you and the people you love. Not being a Christian is NOT a flaw.
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i suppose that depends on your needs and wants
and the "what" in the whats getting between you and the ppl you love.

Personally I have given up ppl -been lead/called whatever to along this Christian walk of mine.

i will say this-you can never "outgive" God
whatever its been that ive seemed to have given up,lost out on,offered up or denied myself of in the name of the Lord he has never failed to return to me tenfold or more-in relationships,freedom,assets,time,money blah,blah,blah everything....thats just how it is-honestly

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Arazec is soooo true, God will always give you what you NEED...and he rewards! :D

My baptism was awesome...really great and thanks for the well wishes, it marks a significant step in my life from where I have come from to the direction I am pointing know. I think on this issue it is important to think how a non-christian relationship would affect your relationship with God. If you dont think it would then there is no problem, but for me, there is nothing better than sharing your walk with God with friends people and relatives, and in that same light I would want to share it also with a loved one who will bring me closer to Him. Being a christian isnt easy all of the time, but what makes it easier is the community of God...Read ACTs if you dont believe me! So in the same light as you NEED people to lean on sometimes its the same with the person that when you marry you are saying to them and God that this is your most favourite Earthly person...If they have no concept of God those vows mean very little to your loved one...but SO much to you.

Im abit lofty in this post I think but I hope the message comes across.
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well glad to hear things went well and all that and no not lofty at all
keep up the encouragment
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The thing you all seem to be assuming is that you have to choose between love and God, but that's not true. My father is Christian, while my mother is Atheist, but it has never come between them. When I was younger my father insisted I go to church, and my mother never had a problem with that. She would even come sometimes for events, like plays on Christmas or Easter. That might be because neither are extreme in their beliefs, but I stand by my point.

Would you not like someone simply because their favourite colour wasn't the same as yours?

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If they have no concept of God those vows mean very little to your loved one

Not at all. Does belief in God change whether you believe in love?
Religion doesn't control everything. The bible doesn't tell you what the best colour is, or what your favourite food should be.

And btw Hello God Limitations Forums :D
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Well...I am not a christian( don't get me wrong,i'm not a hater.I just don't know if there is a god or not and i will never find out,so I don't waste my time thinking about it.I just go with the flow.) but I think it is perfectly okay.I wouldn't know...never had a boyfriend,but my best friend is Jewish and she is a girlfriend to a christian.THE R THE CUTEST COUPLE!
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