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Inter religious Courting; Should we restrain ourselves to our own?
Topic Started: 23 Apr 2009, 10:56 PM (4,431 Views)
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:D @you aha real time dont be a wimp thats all u say?
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

That's the link to the Barna report. You're right to demand the data. I'm wrong to be so lazy. I'm wrong to not find the other studies I found the last time I looked into this, but I am just so lazy.

And no Arazec, its only you that thinks that bigotry and prejudice are different. I was just watching a comedy and it had the line "oh well when you put it like that..." and that seems to be exactly what has happened here. to paraphrase: "Sure I'm prejudiced but I'm no bigot." :blink:
Edited by conradw, 28 Apr 2010, 03:25 PM.
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The Barna report was done from a SURVEY its not EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE

On your own link there are several criticisims to the reliability of a "survey" of only 3478 people.

There are lower divorce rates for Athiests but also lower marriage rates for them-you need to look at the ACTUAL report the survey groups have loose definitions and their is no data on socioeconomic or other factors taken into consideration.

On the matter of Bigotry -i am saying that the correct use of the term includes hatred and animosity-if you dont agree with the Dictionary im not gonna fight you on it.

On the matter of prejudice if you think you neither have any nor encourage any you may be living in denial.......




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I'm guessing you haven't looked up bigotry in the dictionary, because just about every definition I've seen includes prejudice.

As for divorce rates. If you haven't got the message, I really don't care. Feel free to debate with anyone else about this but its something we've all debated about before and I don't feel like doing it again. Having said that, Some data backing up your position comes from the nice people at Brigham Young University: http://www.jstor.org/stable/1387856?seq=10
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@conradw: This time you linked to a commentary about these statistics in general, here's the link you used last time summarizing the statistics: http://www.edivorcepapers.com/divorce-statistics/barna-divorce-statistics.html

@ARAZEC: Here's a link to the last time we had this argument, were I tried to explain what percentage means: http://s15.zetaboards.com/Godlimations/topic/6716217/26/

Please explain to me why these statistics are not empirical evidence, and what would be counted as empirical evidence in this context.

What exactly would be the contribution of socioeconomic factors in interpreting these results?
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Thanks Concolor. I knew it looked different.

I think Arazec is pointing out the difference between observational and intervention studies. Just to clarify, both are empirical as they test the hypothesis. It would be difficult to perform a valid intervention study into this field, particularly a double blind one. Most studies are going to be observational.

As for socioeconomic factors - I think her point is that these results are multifactorial and other sources of error need to be accounted for. SES is often one, but others might include geographic factors or even genetic factors.

Please let me know if I'm wrong about this.
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What's SES?
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sorry, SES: socio-economic status
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you know how income can effect behaviour -sometimes predictably?

and people just fall over themselves to get to a study and tell people about divorce ?
approach and avoidance ?

yep and what about those who had been married more than once? how do they identify?

ANYWAY ITS JUST INTERESTING HOW much easier it can sometimes be to prove nothing :)
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@ARAZEC: What do you think about conradw's other study?
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the link to the discussion on internet Porn being bad for you?

i think that you force yourself into a small corner..... and we all sound stupid :)
except maybe you just think u arent :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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no, the link to the paper I mentioned in post #94
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yes i comented on this before.....its a survey-who the f*&^ does surveys ? i may as well say that the results are like that cause the Christians are less likely to lie? !! i mean really.......

and u say Christians have a delusional faith :D :D :D
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Arazec, you're looking at the wrong study. I'm talking about the one I posted in post #94 by Call and Heaton.

What do you think of that one?
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not much
unless you buy the book you dont know how they address the 4 issues so hhmm
but who are they comparing this 4450 odd ppl to anyway and "religious" ppl are what exactly ? like what regular church attendance? blah blah
but i did find this from there which id like to know what u think....
sacrilige -the faith based corporation

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