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| Junior | 14 Nov 2009, 09:50 AM Post #46 |
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yeah. And since you live in the UK, don't listen to their rules either. after all, the people who made them didn't have toilets. Since the people who made our world's laws were so barbaric, lets just pick and choose from the laws, because some are just unreasonable
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| conradw | 14 Nov 2009, 10:18 AM Post #47 |
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(almost) precisely. I think a law condemning people who claim to be the Son of God to death is unreasonable. I think a law preventing Welsh people from being in Chester at night is unreasonable. We are the citizens of this nation: we are the ones who decide what the law is. If we think it is unreasonable to disallow people to play cards in a pub, then by God, I shall ignore it. Just like I ignore the laws telling me to stone homosexuals. i don't see what toilets have to do with it. |
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Hey Conrad, congrats on reaching the level of Troll ![]() So why laws? Right right... Well, personally, I think gambling is just stupid. I mean, you're going to lay down your paycheck, your next month's mortgage, your rent, etc. for a few moments of fun? |
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| Concolor | 14 Nov 2009, 12:05 PM Post #49 |
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Regarding the bible verse from Exodus, Deuteronomy gives more details:Sex before marriage is not only bad, it is to be punished by stoning the girl to death if she's married. I know a couple of married girls who had sex before they got married. Is it immoral of me not to stone them to death? |
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| Junior | 14 Nov 2009, 03:03 PM Post #50 |
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@concolor, you're not israeli, you're Norwegian. those were israeli laws, therefore they don't apply to you. Leviticus and Deuteronomy and other books of law were included purely for historical purposes; they have nothing to do with actual religious laws, just the laws of primitive Israel. Today they don't have laws that extreme, nor that unreasonable. Even if they were religious, they no longer apply because of Jesus ripping the veil in half, etc. @conradw, the victorian brits didn't have toilets, therefore they're less sophisticated than us, according to your logic. Now, since they made the laws, and they were barbarians, I shan't listen to them. They had laws against raping and pillaging and stealing, but since I have to ignore the laws... (seeing as they're barbaric,) let's say that I pay a visit to your hometown. I smash in your front door, kill your parents, defile your sister and steal the clothes off of your very back. Would you bring me to justice? Edited by Junior, 14 Nov 2009, 03:03 PM.
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| Concolor | 14 Nov 2009, 08:55 PM Post #51 |
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@Junior: So when Exodus 20:13 says "You shall not murder" I can safely ignore that rule as it only applies to old Israeli tribesmen? And what does Jesus mean when he says:
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| dragonshardz | 15 Nov 2009, 01:12 AM Post #52 |
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The idea behind this is that if you knock her up, you have to take care of her. and when this was written, taking care of her meant being her husband. |
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| Deleted User | 15 Nov 2009, 04:41 AM Post #53 |
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Did you know that this passage is apparently brought up a lot by ppl we want to try to prove contradictions in the bible? i found this answer which sounds Good- In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, He revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given. If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ—and thus remains as a binding legal system for today—then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it. What Jesus' death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the other aspects of the law. so no i would not ignore the murder law |
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| Concolor | 15 Nov 2009, 08:07 AM Post #54 |
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Actually, you just had an entire argument supporting your statement that the law should no longer be followed. And then your final remark is "so we should still follow the old testament's law". |
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| Junior | 15 Nov 2009, 08:11 AM Post #55 |
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we should follow the ten commandments, but Jesus is fulfilling the bureaucratic part of it. so technically, if you follow the ten commandments, you're following everything else too. |
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| Concolor | 15 Nov 2009, 08:47 AM Post #56 |
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Why should we follow the ten commandments and not other parts of the old testament? |
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| conradw | 15 Nov 2009, 09:27 AM Post #57 |
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why follow the ten commandments. Didn't Jesus say that all you needed to do was follow his Two? |
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| Junior | 15 Nov 2009, 11:32 AM Post #58 |
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follow them all, but those two are the greatest. you do them and the rest of of it will come naturally. |
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| conradw | 15 Nov 2009, 12:11 PM Post #59 |
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loving my neighbour will never get me to stone him for being gay, or dishonouring his mother and his father. loving god will never get me to not eating shellfish or killing someone for working on a saturday. try again... hold on: doesn't the ten commandments say "thou shalt not kill" - how do you justify the death penalty (or it might not have been you junior, if it wasn't, i invite whoever it was to answer instead). Edited by conradw, 15 Nov 2009, 12:15 PM.
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15 Nov 2009, 12:35 PM Post #60 |
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Hold on. I think you're going the "if you're eye causes you to sin path, cast it out." Now, stoning a gay neighbor would kill him, and prevent him from his sin. Now, in application to our modern life, if you love your neighbor, and see him doing something that will harm him, you're going to try and make him stop that sin? No? |
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