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Bioshock and God; "Moral dilemna's" in video games.
Topic Started: 3 Jul 2009, 01:06 PM (238 Views)
ARAZEC	6 Jul 2009, 12:48 AM Post #16
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	this belongs in the bible section but mehh what would i know?
	OTTOR never BE SORRY


kiernan36	8 Jul 2009, 03:18 AM Post #17
some guy you've never met and probably don't want to Posts: 322 Group: Members Member #170 Joined: 21 December 2008	i believe that maturity is a state if mind. i myself have at least three personas. thers me, the crazy, demented character we know and love, myself, the considerate person, and i, the deep thinker. sometimes, if you can manage two lives, its best to do that. one life is immature, the side you use for gaming and crazed conversations, firecrackers and artilery shells. the other life is good for job searching, intelligent conversations, school, this person shows responsibility. and an extra two lives for family and friends. this is easy if you practice. i currently live two lives. one pointless, under the name my parents gave me, and another under a new name. this new guy is responsible, courteous, kind, etc. and doesnt appear for any meals. in the game, i am the crazy guy that kills the little girls. in real life, i am the other guy. i live two lives because in my original life, i lived to much in video games and pyrotechnics. i couldnt pull myself away be cause i was too far in. since i coulnt fix what was, i created something else to take my place. it wasnt the easiest thing to do, but i lived through it. thats what was my second chance. i believe that all thing can become corrupt. if not supervised and helped, it most likely will. that was not what disney believed, obviously.



ARAZEC	8 Jul 2009, 07:55 AM Post #18
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	thats amazing insight... what happens when the second persona gets corrupted tho? and like cant it All be part of one persona? the unquiely you,yourself and self? i dont understand
	OTTOR never BE SORRY


Luemas	8 Jul 2009, 12:12 PM Post #19
All ur Walrus R belong to Me Posts: 4,047 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: 14 January 2009	Hmm... I have the smart me... which was present for the most until about the start of 8th grade, my last school year. Now the predominant me is sarcastic, sadistic and insane.
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kiernan36	8 Jul 2009, 02:57 PM Post #20
some guy you've never met and probably don't want to Posts: 322 Group: Members Member #170 Joined: 21 December 2008	thats about when i started. eighth grade. :'-)



Cameron	9 Jul 2009, 12:11 AM Post #21
Administratinator Posts: 1,740 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: 20 December 2007	I have a few personalities myself. I'll change depending on who I'm around.
	Note that Cameron is not Patrick and does not run Godlimations.


kiernan36	9 Jul 2009, 03:31 PM Post #22
some guy you've never met and probably don't want to Posts: 322 Group: Members Member #170 Joined: 21 December 2008	thats right. it almost always depends on who you're around. in my experience, however, it also can depend on what you're doing. when i'm gaming, i'm crazy and demented. when i'm at riggs park, walking, or shopping, i'm calm and slightly off balance, but thats because thats the alternate me.



Blaze	9 Jul 2009, 05:47 PM Post #23
Health: 600/600 Posts: 1,580 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: 6 January 2008	Fable is not the best game to use in this instance, because of how the game was made. Throughout the game, you're given the option to kill a certain person, or to keep them alive. If you choose to keep them alive, they still never appear in the story again, because the Devs have to plan on you killing them. I didn't kill one person, because I wanted to see them in the story again. Never happened because if I had killed that person, seeing them again would not be good...unless they were a ghost. I'm trying to play through the game again being evil, but doing random evil acts is boring and usually ends up hurting me in the end, so I'm sticking to story evil, where I only do evil acts in the important parts. Of course in other games where you can be evil, it is greatly discouraged. For instance, when I was young I tried being evil in Balder's Gate, but ended up being ganked by the flaming fist. Never be evil in D&D if you don't have the power, it never seems to end well. As far as the morality part of it goes, it's a virtual world. A world without consequences...sometimes. In most games, being good always makes it easier than being evil. At least, the games I play anyway. I'm probably never going to play any of the GTA games, just because of the...nature of those games.
	"One day we'll get married. What do you think of that? My best man will be Harry. Your bridesmaid will be your cat!" -Ron Puppet


Luemas	11 Jul 2009, 03:25 PM Post #24
All ur Walrus R belong to Me Posts: 4,047 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: 14 January 2009	How in San Andreas you have to be 18 to buy it, and they have everything from drugs to alcohol to sex to death in it?
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Eternal Entity	22 Jul 2009, 05:28 AM Post #25
Crab King Posts: 59 Group: Members Member #331 Joined: 22 July 2009	Sorry for necro. Just tossing in my two cents, though Blaze pretty much covered it. Video games are made for entertainment, and most people (myself included) use them as a form of escapism. You (usually) get a fresh start in games, and you're free to do whatever you want to do, for the most part. All games let you make choices, the only difference is the extent to what you make them. Personally I dislike games like Fable and Bioshock, though they are great games but they're really only worth the two playthroughs, because the games in this category are set to two extremes. Good and Evil, Sith and Jedi, etc, etc. I prefer games that give you a full range of choices, and have multiple endings because of this. Fallout 3 is a good example. Though the game has some black and white choices, there are at least a hundred endings to the game. If you want to play a game where you don't have to make much of a choice to that effect, pick up one of the Final Fantasy games. The game is pretty straight and narrow, and the only real choices you make are when to attack, use magic, and who gets to be in your party.
	Link to my original story. Will be updated whenever I get inspiration for a new chapter, which is fairly frequently. King Nothing ALSO! Yes, I ship Shinji/Asuka. Sue me. If you know ANYTHING about the series, then Shinji/Rei is disturbing on far too many levels. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, it's Neon Genesis Evangelion, and you should watch it.


kiernan36	24 Jul 2009, 06:29 AM Post #26
some guy you've never met and probably don't want to Posts: 322 Group: Members Member #170 Joined: 21 December 2008	yes. something along the lines of spyro, legend of dragoon, a bugs life. those are all straightforward games. you save the world, not destroy it. you dont have the option. and nobody doesnt want options. its their life. thus the balance between good and evil. but what is good and evil? are we all separated into two groups? there is no good and evil. just humans trying to acheive succcess. by any means possible.



fromdustyoucame	25 Jul 2009, 12:02 PM Post #27
NSA, Black Ops Division Posts: 63 Group: Members Member #332 Joined: 22 July 2009	ok. as far as evil goes, i think that the torture game 2 on newgrounds tops any other game. the most worrying aspect of that game isn't the torture, but how intriguing it is. there is a little bit of everyone that wants to see what the dark side is like. in my opinion games are a healthy outlet but i know some would be inclined to disagree.



Eternal Entity	25 Jul 2009, 01:14 PM Post #28
Crab King Posts: 59 Group: Members Member #331 Joined: 22 July 2009	fromdustyoucame 25 Jul 2009, 12:02 PM ok. as far as evil goes, i think that the torture game 2 on newgrounds tops any other game. the most worrying aspect of that game isn't the torture, but how intriguing it is. there is a little bit of everyone that wants to see what the dark side is like. in my opinion games are a healthy outlet but i know some would be inclined to disagree. This. Many, many times, this. Those who are inclined to disagree are mostly the idiots who believe anything the news tells them. Nobody kills someone because you can do it in a game unless you're one of the complete tools who can't tell the difference between real life and the virtual world.
	Link to my original story. Will be updated whenever I get inspiration for a new chapter, which is fairly frequently. King Nothing ALSO! Yes, I ship Shinji/Asuka. Sue me. If you know ANYTHING about the series, then Shinji/Rei is disturbing on far too many levels. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, it's Neon Genesis Evangelion, and you should watch it.


Blaze	25 Jul 2009, 02:14 PM Post #29
Health: 600/600 Posts: 1,580 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: 6 January 2008	Eternal Entity 22 Jul 2009, 05:28 AM If you want to play a game where you don't have to make much of a choice to that effect, pick up one of the Final Fantasy games. The game is pretty straight and narrow, and the only real choices you make are when to attack, use magic, and who gets to be in your party. Unfortunately, not all of them are straight and narrow storylines. VI has many different choices you can make throughout the game, which ANNOYS ME TO NO END. I accidentally killed one of the characters, so I either have to start over or just go through the game and not see the awesome story. cry Most of them are pretty straightforward though.
	"One day we'll get married. What do you think of that? My best man will be Harry. Your bridesmaid will be your cat!" -Ron Puppet


fromdustyoucame	25 Jul 2009, 05:42 PM Post #30
NSA, Black Ops Division Posts: 63 Group: Members Member #332 Joined: 22 July 2009	Eternal Entity 25 Jul 2009, 01:14 PM Nobody kills someone because you can do it in a game unless you're one of the complete tools who can't tell the difference between real life and the virtual world. very true. and if they kill someone because of a videogame, they have many mental problems not caused by the game and probably would've killed someone without the game too. right about the news thing too. the torture game was featured on fox and they (of course) took it way out of proportion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIc3xI0PiEA&feature=related Warning!!!: the blond lady is really annoying. Edited by fromdustyoucame, 25 Jul 2009, 05:44 PM.


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