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The big bang theory; God spoke and BANG, it happened?
Topic Started: 16 Aug 2009, 02:12 PM (663 Views)
Patrick Majewski	16 Aug 2009, 02:12 PM Post #1
A man's life is changed by a dare Posts: 247 Group: Big Boss Member #2 Joined: 20 December 2007	Nothing cannot be formed from nothing. An old friend countered that argument with matter being caused by anti-matter, and vice versa, later causing the big bang. Georges Lemaītre, who studied in the catholic school of Leuven, proposed the "the Cosmic Egg exploding at the moment of the creation", later taken sarcastically by Fred Hoyle as the "Big bang theory", which to these days is now taken out of proportion by atheists who would have never thought the idea spawned by a catholic. He was simply not as well known as Einstein in the day because he resided in Europe... So now when we read genesis 1 "In the beginning, God created heavens n earth etc etc" I think Georges used the big bang to describe the details of genesis. It reminds me of the term "Christian". When it first initiated, it was a term for mockery. To relate to today, the term "Bitch" or "Nigga" is mockery, slowly transforming its meaning to a more subtle, more befitting and somehow "Cool" term i.e. "S'up my nigga", "You is my bitch".. the big bang has come quite a long way since. So my question is.... Are these facts actually true? Can we believe that God formed the big bang? Does Genesis discredit it? Why is this the first time of 5 years being a Christian have I heard this valuable information from an external source, and not the churches? It just seems like it could kick butt in a sermon... I would love some serious correcting. I'm totally basing my info from wikipedia... I don't even know if that's a reliable source. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaītre Edited by Patrick Majewski, 16 Aug 2009, 02:31 PM.



dragonshardz	16 Aug 2009, 02:21 PM Post #2
Horned Rogue Posts: 187 Group: Members Member #383 Joined: 14 August 2009	As requested, my critique. I've never heard of this, and for all I know it could be complete BS. It does make sense, to a point, and I've always thought that there is a reasonable middle point between evolutionism and creationism. I've never taken the six days as being six literal days, I've taken them more as six times when God intervened in the cosmic experiment called Earth. As for Wikipedia being or not being a reliable source, the site is fairly self-regulating, there's the banners saying "This article does not met Wikipedia's standards for reliability/NPOV/supporting articles, etc." so I think that it is a fairly reliable source, though prone to vandalism. But since there are people there from all over the world, errors/vandalism are usually caught and corrected fairly quickly. In short, it's plausible, and Wikipedia has never steered me wrong before. PS: Also, my first post here at Godlimations, and yes, my real name IS Patrick. You should see what happens when tha Big Boss and I talk to each other on MSNM. Edited by dragonshardz, 16 Aug 2009, 02:23 PM.
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Luemas	16 Aug 2009, 02:43 PM Post #3
All ur Walrus R belong to Me Posts: 4,035 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: 14 January 2009	Well as I've heard it, God spoke everything into existance. And I believe in the six days theory, much to many intellectual friends annoyance. So when God spoke, could it have been a giant bang that was his creation? I don't know, but I guess I really don't have a problem with it considering how I believe that however you believe the World was created, as long as God is the starter, I'm alright with it.
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Concolor	16 Aug 2009, 03:55 PM Post #4
Death Posts: 1,542 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: 15 July 2009	First of all, the big bang theory has nothing (or very little) to do with evolution. The "Big Bang" is a model of the early development of the known universe (cosmology) whereas evolution is a property of the development of life-forms (biology). Secondly: Although Wikipedia is not a source in itself, rather a channel for information, I agree with dragonshardz that when it comes to most uncontroversial topics Wikipedia usually gives a fairly accurate overview. Also, Lemaītre isn't really the first religious person to have contributed to science. As an example, the aforementioned Einstein was most probably a deist. Edited by Concolor, 18 Aug 2009, 10:42 AM.



Luemas	16 Aug 2009, 05:23 PM Post #5
All ur Walrus R belong to Me Posts: 4,035 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: 14 January 2009	Benjy Franks! Benjy Franks! Oh and Darwin was going to be a priest or something. Homer? not the Simpsons.
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ARAZEC	17 Aug 2009, 01:27 AM Post #6
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	Dragonarse I'm ARAZEC
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dragonshardz	17 Aug 2009, 05:58 PM Post #7
Horned Rogue Posts: 187 Group: Members Member #383 Joined: 14 August 2009	ARAZEC: It's dragonshardz, NOT dragonarse. But thanks for the welcome anyways.
	I'm also known as "the Other Patrick." Yes, really. And now for the link to my profile on Urban Dead and my character's status: Willful stupidity makes me angry. I'm not a happy person when I'm angry.


ARAZEC	18 Aug 2009, 12:41 AM Post #8
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	mines more catchey..... movin right along- theory smeory - it all depends on the evidence ! the christians will say carbon dating is a farce and the big bangers will have us beleive pheromoans are accidential random chance. just think about the grand design of a human being ,then of conciousness and a spirit and tell me theres not a mastermind conducting the orchestra
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DemonMayCare	18 Aug 2009, 03:02 AM Post #9
Crab King Posts: 54 Group: Members Member #259 Joined: 4 May 2009	Arazec, you really knows how to welcome a friend nyo? know what Dragonshards? At first after saying that you are a second Patric i really thought that you also create online games
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ARAZEC	18 Aug 2009, 03:39 AM Post #10
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	to all the ppl who choose to laugh rather than get offended hey, so dragonshardz might make games-? do u make games?
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Concolor	18 Aug 2009, 10:41 AM Post #11
Death Posts: 1,542 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: 15 July 2009	ARAZEC 18 Aug 2009, 12:41 AM theory smeory - it all depends on the evidence ! Exactly! A theory is like a summary, or conclusion of all the available evidence found so far. If new evidence is found that does not fit with the theory (and the evidence is sound, objective and reproducible) it is time to fix the theory, or find a new theory that can accommodate all the evidence. Either way it would cause our understanding to take another great leap forward. The Big Bang model of the early universe has been popular so far, but who knows what discoveries the future will bring? Maybe in ten years we'll all be talking about the accordion-universe and shake our heads and smile when we read old books about the Big Bang theory. Great ARAZEC, now you've got me all science-exited. I'll be mumbling Carl Sagan quotes for hours Quote: the christians will say carbon dating is a farce and the big bangers will have us beleive pheromoans are accidential random chance. Wasn't the whole point of Patricks post that the idea of the Big Bang theory was put forth by a Christian? And how on earth are carbon dating (archeology), Big Bang (cosmology), pheromones (biology) and random chance (statistics) related?



Luemas	18 Aug 2009, 05:22 PM Post #12
All ur Walrus R belong to Me Posts: 4,035 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: 14 January 2009	As far as I know it, it's radioisometric dating where the real kicker is, not so much carbon dating, although all of them are debatable, as carbon dating only able to be found in organic materials and radioisometric dating only to be found in rocks, which both make an assumption on however much carbon/uranium/whatever was in it to begin with. In other words the world spins round like a top.
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ARAZEC	19 Aug 2009, 05:07 AM Post #13
This Person Has No Life Posts: 4,055 Group: Members Member #48 Joined: 18 June 2008	Exactely my point Con - how are they related ? they are created and put together by an amazing God on purpose for a purpose and you can theorize till the cows come home and you may get to be half as enlightened as Soloman and then........ARAZEC rant.... OH was the big bang theory started by Christians??
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Concolor	19 Aug 2009, 07:23 AM Post #14
Death Posts: 1,542 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: 15 July 2009	Yes. Georges Lemaītre was a catholic, as far as I know.



DemonMayCare	1 Sep 2009, 03:16 AM Post #15
Crab King Posts: 54 Group: Members Member #259 Joined: 4 May 2009	I think you are wrong Patrick It says in the first day that the world has no shape its just in the darkness and water is just there while winds are blowing And according to Science the Earth came from frozen comets floating around space gases (M A T C H E D) Then God said "Let there be Light" B A N G Heat was formed Chemical reactions occur and The Sun was BORN The Big Bang is not in the bible (I think ) Edited by DemonMayCare, 1 Sep 2009, 03:18 AM.
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