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Internet Pornography; A sin that needs to be talked about
Topic Started: 18 Aug 2009, 09:13 PM (12,567 Views)
Concolor
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I asked you in post #312 :)

And yes I do watch porn. (That's a rather personal question, but I think you've worked up some slack after all the personal questions I have tried asking you about your personal beliefs)
Edited by Concolor, 27 Oct 2009, 04:22 PM.
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strangely, it seems like something most people on this board have in common.

Difference is, some people feel shame for it, and others just enjoy it.
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whether you feel shame or not about it does not change anything

its like the story of a frog in a pot of water that is slowing heated up to boil will not jump out but cook to death

o.k i thought that made sense... :blink:

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Well, it made sense in it self, but I'm not sure how the frog is related to porn?
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I get the feeling that I was meant to mean something like this:

The frog knows something is wrong, but can choose to ignore it and cook or react to what it senses is wrong and get out.

Just to stretch the metaphor: What if the frog is able to look under the pot, and finds out that the heater is only there to maintain a comfortable temperature and for her health. The knee-jerk reaction of jumping out is now wrong, because its cold outside (and the frog knows she's cold blooded). If the frog realises her initial misgivings were wrong, she can happily swim about, lay a few eggs, and raise a brood of happy frogbabies.

You're saying our sense of shame is there to help us. I'm saying it CAN be there to help us, and indeed acting on every sexual urge can be unhelpful (and so we stay out of the other sex's changing rooms).
But we have outgrown our ancestors on the savannah, and their now irrational fears. We have to teach kids to be careful about traffic because for most of our history we haven't had to worry about cars. But we often do have to teach kids to treat people who are different fairly and with kindness, because at one time foreigners were something to be cautious of.

Have you ever eaten food you had some trepidation about trying, but instead found you really enjoyed it? I never expected to enjoy mint chocolate chip ice cream until I was pleasantly surprised.

Going by your gut reaction to something is called prejudice.
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Conradw, i really like your point. I've never liked my Gut feelings. they always get me into trouble. Its like in the movies: Follow your heart and you'll be much happier. Yes you'll be happier, but how long will that last?? You'll be happy but you won't be satisfied. Porn is only a subtistute for something else. We think we need it to be happy because our hormones and body react to it so well. but in the end, its worthless and a waste of time.
I once read this book that had a line in that went like this: Don't follow your heart, lead your heart.
"The heart is deceitful above all things" says the bible. (can't remember where excatly but its there)
Trusting your heart is like letting your emotions take you for a roller coaster ride that doesn't have a stop. ugh.
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Or, as the film High Fidelity (one of my favourite movies of all time) put it:

"Well, I've been listening to my gut since I was 14 years old, and frankly speaking, I've come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains."

porn isn't supposed to replace real emotions. That doesn't make it in any way shape or form 'bad'.
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So basically, porn is pointless.
Or useless.
At the very least.
Because it doesn't fulfill you.
Edited by Luemas, 28 Oct 2009, 07:05 PM.
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No, i think the point of porn is very apparent.

Also its use.

I eat a breakfast of cereal and before long i'm hungry again - I am not fulfilled. Is the cereal pointless then?
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Correct, Lue. Porn does not fulfill you, neither does breakfast :D
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well porn and the porn industry are bad ...and my frog had more to do with getting yourself in hot water and destroying yourself than feeling shame.

its not my intent to make anyone feel shame-theres a devil out there who makes it his business to shame us all to death for everything he can and i want no part of his business !

what kills me is ppl who think they can control a beast or worse send others on the same track.

Lets be truthfull-theres sick stuff out there and it gets worse -dont give it an audience-dont feed the beast
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Don't feed the trolls ARAZEC :D

The meat industry is often bad, some places downright horrible. Does that make eating meat in principle a wrong thing to do? I think not. That does not mean I condone or support companies that lets animals be tortured so that we can get meat, but I think there is a difference between the question of eating meat is right and the question of if what the meat industry is doing is right.
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meat isnt bad
Porn is bad
Porn industry = bad

meat + Porn = bad

meat industry + Porn = bad

there you go
You seem like a numbers guy

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What's your equation for the meat industry?

I would say:
meat isn't bad
meat industry = bad

porn isn't bad
porn industry = bad

Of course I don't count things such as rotten or infected meat, meat made from endangered animals, health concerns with too much meat in the diet etc. etc. when I say that meat isn't bad in principle, but then again I make the same exclusion for loads of different types of porn so I still think it's a fair comparison.
Edited by Concolor, 29 Oct 2009, 07:17 AM.
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Everything in moderation.
Another underlying factor I noticed, is that industrys = bad.
Which means working is a sin!
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