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Internet Pornography; A sin that needs to be talked about
Topic Started: 18 Aug 2009, 09:13 PM (12,566 Views)
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just what is with you and the meat industry ?

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Just what is it with you and the porn industry? I'm trying to make a point to show that just because the port industry is bad, that does not make porn in itself bad in principle, in the same way that just because the meat industry is bad does not make meat itself bad in principle.
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i will tell you whats with me and the porn industry-its the title of the thread
but what your trying to demonstrate is not a good principal -srry but Pornography AND the Porn industry- not good
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Ah, now we are getting somewhere :)
The point of mine was to put emphasis on the fact that pornography can bee good/bad independent of whether or not the industry is bad (just like meat and the meat industry).
I interpret your post as saying that both pornography in itself is bad, and that the industry is bad independent of each other. That is great, because then we can discuss pornography itself without having anything to do with the industry (which I agree is bad).

So, what is wrong with my hypothetical wife feeling sexual emotions when she is watching a picture of me with my shirt off?
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NO they go hand in hand srry no squirming out trying to prove your point by getting some moderate concessions on your wife looking at you with your shirt off etc...

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I disagree. That was my entire point of using the meat industry for comparison and why I stress the importance of defining what we are discussing. A picture of me with my shirt off fits nicely into my definition of porn.

This is in the debate-section, so if you disagree then you also have to supply reasons for why you disagree, and support those reasons accordingly.
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no i dont
this is the debate section - i dont have to agree with anything you think is right :)
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Exactly, but you do have to explain why you think it is not.

I thought you were saying that "The porn industry is bad and it must be because porn is bad."
I used the meat industry as an example to show that if an industry is bad that is not a proof that the product itself is bad.
Why is porn bad in each and every case?
I think my example shows a case were porn is not bad.
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this was quoted by someone from a book on another thread-this is a good definition


WHAT IS LUST?
Self indulgence in sexual activity. Even in marriage, lust isn't a team effort, you're pretty much using your spouse as an object of your own affection, no different than using a dildo or something...

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I would disagree:

Lust: Indulgence in sexual emotion. Lust can be individual or shared between people. In a relationship lust can combine sexual feelings you get from your partner as the object of your affection with the closeness and love you get from your partner as a person.

But for the sake of argument, I'm fully prepared to use your definition as a basis for the discussion. How is your form of lust connected with porn?
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its not my definition its like i said from a book

Lets base our discussion in reality

Lust is not indulgence in sexual emotion it is SELF indulgence

LUST has little or no regard for the person-

trying to mesh sex which is natural and beautifull with Porn and the Porn industry is not going to cut it-no matter how good a debater you are
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Mein Kampf is also a book. Just because a book says something that doesn't make it true.

Which reality should we base our discussion on, your or mine? :)

I agreed to use your definition of lust for the discussion.

And I would point out that you keep mentioning the porn industry even after I feel I did a fairly good job of showing that the industry does not necessarily have anything to do with this.

I will ask again: Since you brought up LUST, I assume you will use it in our discussion about PORN. Please explain to me how you perceive the connection between LUST and PORN.
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oh and no matter how often you edit your posts :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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I didn't understand that post.
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i didnt say because it is in a book its true-i was merely giving credit to the writer and original poster

and no you did not prove Porn should be looked out without the Porn industry you cant do a good job showing that they dont have anything to do with each other

Now i can see you are confused about sexual feelings,lust,love and thats common when you watch porn-its unfortunate
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