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the end days; will it be 2012
Topic Started: 6 Sep 2009, 03:21 PM (4,401 Views)
conradw
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you say 'supposedly' suggesting you don't really believe the story. Am I right?

Is this similar to the demon you saw arazec? I've never seen anything like this.

I don't think the flying nun was possessed, nor was she real.
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well for me i have been to prayer ministry and have seen first hand a few manifestations-

no spew on your shoes deals but
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the nun thing was for comic relief, and not all demons look EXACTLY like that, in 23 minutes in hell it was suggested that every demon has his own disgusting form. some have razor sharp spines on their back, some look like giant serpents, and some look like the demon pictured. also, the exorcism thing is factual. in one of the exorcisms that the books were based off of, the priest is thrown down a flight of stairs by the girl, and instantly dies.
Call it what you want
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conradw
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demons look like evil?

see, THIS is exactly why I am unconvinced. You claim to have seen something first hand but you won't tell me what it looked like.

exorcism is bull. People do bad things. They don't need the help of a demon. They also do good things, They don't need the help of God for that either.
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well come to think of it the demon looked like me-talked like me too
it attached itself to my soul when i gave it a legal right to be there-without even realising it
it lied to me and told me that i needed it of course i didnt
so the face off was prayer/deliverance ministry/exorcisim- whatever you want to call it-it couldnt hide anymore because we prayed in Jesus name and i wanted it out
so anyway Jesus bought a sin to my mind something i had to confess to another living soul after that all the demons power over me was gone and it was bound and cast out really easy and forbidden to return.

then we all had a cup of coffee and talked about the weather-cause this stuff happens all the time all over the world.
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its a spiritual world and all is not as it seems
if you are deluded enough to choose to disregard powers and spiritual influence then i will stand in for you in prayer ( intercessary prayer )
and if you want to humiliate me thats o.k too :)
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conradw
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Hang on, its not legal if consent is unknowingly given. If you didn't know you were giving it consent then it didn't have your consent.

Its interesting that the demon you encountered looked like yourself, whereas the one depicted looks like the red horned devil we're all familiar with. I have a friend who described it as a dark cloud.
What I want to know is this. If you're all talking about the same thing, why are the descriptions inconsistent?
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you give legal consent in a spiritual realm when you beleive or are in aggreement with a lie.
so its the truth that sets you free from bondage.
Thats why the apostle Paul prays that we might come to the understanding that we already pocess every power and thing we need through Christ Jesus problem is many ppl live in defeat because they dont see or beleive it-in contrast the power of satan is in the lie and once you expose the lie you break his power.

the demon i had encounted was inside of me and so that is why i say it looked like me it was attached to my soul and so it manifested itself through me once i became aware of it and aware of truth i was able to renounce it and affirm truth it was a choice to assume my own responsibility before God.
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Thank you for that nugget of wisdom ARAZEC. Please remember that this is valid also in those cases when you don't feel like it should :D
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your welcome and yes remember that when you humble yourself at the feet of your creator :)
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I would assume I would only see the underside of his soles as I am tormented in hell for all eternity?
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:-/ no quite the contrary
we have all sinned and fallen short of the grace of God
*btw you cant see hell from heaven as hell is the absense of god for all eternity

are you asking how you may change going to hell?
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Luke 16 (King James Version)
 
19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Looks to me like when you're in hell you can both see and speak to those in heaven.
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:blink: like i said you cant see hell from heaven? ?
but its interesting that Abraham says if they wont hear one that comes from the dead-
Jesus was resurrected from the dead and ppl still dont beleive.....
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Then how can Abraham talk back? Is he in hell? I would assume he was in heaven.
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was he? it says that he saw him far afar off not that he saw him in heaven?
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