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An interesting paradox
Topic Started: 18 Sep 2009, 01:21 PM (5,800 Views)
conradw
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Arazec, I don't understand what point you're making.

Are you saying something like if I go to the wrong part of town and start pissing people off, when I get beaten up, its just a natural consequence?

So if you piss off God, expect a beat down?

That means that God isn't immoral but Amoral (that is to say he is without morals, not even bad ones).

And this is better how?
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conradw
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And I'd just like to add to my own point:

Doesn't that mean instead you are blaming the victim?

If I fell in love with a woman and her brother came up to me and said "talk to her and I'll kick your ass," but because I am a hopeless romantic I instead offer her my heart, are you saying that he had no choice in thumping me because I took the decision that I did?
Are God's hands so tied?
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:D rubber-foam? sharper than a two edged sword

The point i am making is that God is a just God-there are no speacil rules for anyone-he causes the sun to shine on all ppl...their are consequences to our actions.....now stepping on glass or being a romantic are not "sin" but they carry consequence regardless...
it does not matter who i am if i step on that glass i am more than likely going to be cut and thats not Gods "fault" anymore than if on your way to see your true love you get jumped by her brother....
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conradw
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So he's just, but uncaring.

Like I said: Amoral.

Now that we've sorted that one out...
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oh but he is not uncaring !
For god so loved the world that he sent his only son Jesus !

no God cares more for you than you will ever comprehend -his love is so strong and pure

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So if I step on glass then Jesus will bleed?
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conradw
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his love is so strong and pure ... that if you piss him off he'll smite you without a second thought.

God so loved the world that he condemned it. And then sent his son to die in it. Why? to save a few of those souls.
Why not just not condemn it?
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Jesus will know your mortal pain
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Luemas
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Don't tell me Conrad that all you can really do is use the omnipresent potent scient theory.

Listen, if we lived in a perfect world, what characteristics would we know of God?


Now, we live in a corrupt world, so what characteristics do we know of God? He's loving, merciful, that is if you accept his son.

While living in a perfect world might seem better, would you really like not being able to do as you chose?
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What if God made it possible for me to exercise my free will by having to choose whether to give an ice-cream to a child or help an old lady cross the road? Why does he have to give me the option to stab the old lady and steal the kid's lunch money? Why couldn't he just have skipped those options the same way he doesn't allow me to change the woman's skin color to purple with my mind?
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because then it would not be a free will
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Why not? I can't turn her purple with my mind so I don't have free will?
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you can still chose to try
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But I won't succeed. Why does he let me succeed in stabbing the poor woman?
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because it's more physically possible than turning her purple. by the way, you can turn her purple, by turning the thermostat waaaaay down.
Call it what you want
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