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An interesting paradox
Topic Started: 18 Sep 2009, 01:21 PM (5,803 Views)
Concolor
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Yeah, but I forgot. :'( Sorry, I have horrible short-term memory :$

Please go on :)
Edited by Concolor, 23 Oct 2009, 07:49 AM.
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23 Oct 2009, 06:39 AM
@ARAZEC: Remember that when you speak in parables and Bible-quotes you leave very much up to my interpretation. And I think we have established that my interpretation of things is quite different from yours.

It is my impression that you are trying to show me why you think the God of the Bible is cool. And that this caused you to believe in him a part of reality.

I do not think these things present him as cool at all. And I also see no link between coolness and probability of being real: Batman is way cooler than I am, but I'm a lot more real than he is.
Batman isn't as cool as your are. His superpower is that he cries about his parents.

Now, the Punisher: he is cooler than you are. (not only that, but he'd kick batman's ass, because, you know, he'd cheat)
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hey, sorry to interrupt but...

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Call it what you want
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So just think about how cool I am in comparison :P
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to throw pearls to swine....
to not throw pearls............
to throw pearls to swine....
to not throw pearls...........


something tells me your gonna turn and trample me but thats never stopped me before....
really short its like this
always beleived in God-but didnt know him-but he knew me because he came to earth as baby Jesus
so figured out i was wasnt perfect and neither was anyone else because we always have a free will cause thats how we are made so wanted to make sense of life wanted to know our purpose-found out lifes not fair but God was fair and just- each person sins - eventually we all die he cant let some just live and others die otherwise he wouldnt be a fair and just God-so he wants to know us forever but he made us to have a free will and sometimes we choose bad otherwise he would of just made robots.
but he loved us so much he sent himself as jesus a god as a man and came to us saying accept me i will take the punishment that is due to you for your own sin and i will accept you and that is the way i can be god fair and just i will send myself for you as a gift so that there is a way for me to accept you forever
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... I don't want to cruel or anything but I found that extremely difficult to understand/follow.

Maybe swine enjoy pearls more with punctuation?
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@ARAZEC: Of course I will dissect your views, and criticize them in every way. Otherwise it would not be a discussion, it would be a rant accompanied by nodding, and that does not improve anyones life and it would not help me to understand what you believe and why.

I really appreciate you trying to explain this to me, but from your perspective it really is pearls before swine because I still think I have many misconceptions as to what you believe and why. The only thing I can do to fix that is to have us talk more about it. Remember that you started by writing "always beleived in God". That one can easily lead me to think you started out by believing in God and just went from there. Do you think you could elaborate on that part so I would not jump to such conclusions?
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Hey Conc, two pages late, but I'm too lazy to read all of the comments and bla bla so i'll just be off/on topic and say what i want to.


God was going to strike them down.
Think, the men were in Sodom/Gomorrah to save Lot from the destruction of the city.
A couple hours later...
Fatality.
They were punished, on God's time :D
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they were punished...

what exactly was their crime?
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its o.k Concolor-its not important for me to make sure you understand my relationship ive had enough dissection for a while :)
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I understand, that is completely your decision to make. I just have no other way of understanding something than to critically examine it and see if it holds up to scrutiny. But at least I had a very nice time discussing these things with you, and I appreciate how different ways of thinking people have :)
Edited by Concolor, 27 Oct 2009, 04:47 PM.
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you have many ways but its up to you to be ready and willing
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The problem is, I don't think you and I have the same idea of what it would mean to be ready and willing. I think I am ready and willing right now, and that this is evident from my posts. If you disagree, then why don't you think I am?
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your telling the storey mate - its just you get a bit uptight with ppl that have different beleifs than you -thats all.....like you gotta prove them wrong and stuff -but thats just my opinion
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Well it's really important that you're telling me this, because your opinion is the one I care about.

You have to remember that I'm used to scientific discourse as the basis for every discussion. I'm used to having every idea and statement scrutinized in every way to see which ones hold up and which ones do not. We are expected to raise our hand and point out when a lecturer makes a mistake or a statement we don't think sound right, and unless she/he has a good backing for that statement he/she will have to investigate it further until one of us stands corrected.

Though I think this is a reasonable way to have a debate, I realize that many do not like to have a conversation this way. Though I try to tone it down, it seems like I'm not so good at that.

Though I can't demand of you that you help me with this, I will try to ask you for clues on how I go wrong:
Like in post #97 in this thread. In that post I'm not trying to scrutinize anything, just making sure I don't misunderstand your post. Am I being successful, or do I still seem uptight and out to disprove stuff?
Edited by Concolor, 27 Oct 2009, 04:52 PM.
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