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An interesting paradox
Topic Started: 18 Sep 2009, 01:21 PM (5,801 Views)
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If he made it so that I could cut my self from walking barefoot on glass it is either his way of punishing me for being dumb enough to do it, or he just likes to see me bleed (like a kid pulling the wings off a fly). Otherwise he would of course not have made it possible for me to cut myself.
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that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard you say !
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Why?
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because you said in another thread you take responsibility for your own actions based on your values and beleifs ! now you blame God ? ha !
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I said "If he made it so..."

Remember that in my life, where I take responsibility for my own actions based on my values and beliefs, I live by the assumption that there is no personal supernatural entity (such as what I perceive your God to be).
In the previous post I assumed that there was a God who made both me and the glass.
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well make up your mind
what do you really beleive as it seems to chance a bit depending on what suits to try to prove my beleif in the truth wrong :)
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ARAZEC, I know you are not dumb. When people say to you "If the moon was made of cheese we could eat it." you know that they don't think the moon is made from cheese. If they did, they would have said "Since the moon..." not "If the moon..."

I would not like to think that you are acting dumb just to get out of a difficult conversation, as that would be dishonest. I have not thought of you as dishonest before, and will not think of you as such unless you go to great lengths to convince me otherwise (so please stop doing that).

I am therefore left with the explanation that you misunderstood my post. Please read my posts more carefully, and tell me if I am unclear so that I may clarify my points.
Edited by Concolor, 1 Nov 2009, 07:24 PM.
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you know i was thinking the exact same about you

so if you walked on glass and cut your feet would that be a consequence -i am asking YOU -i would hope that you dont say dumb hypotheticals to not concede a point and be honest about your beleifs !

its really O.k if we agree on some things you know
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Yes, in a universe where there is no God, no personal conscious creator, cutting yourself is a natural consequence of walking on broken glass.
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how CONCOLOR?
how ?
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In such a universe, if broken glass happens to be sharp (which it is in our universe) and feet start bleeding if they are cut by something sharp (which they do in our universe) then stepping on broken glass will make your feet bleed.
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and therefor if you step on broken glass with bare feet the consequence is that they usually bleed
i see the Divine judgement of God as a consequence.

God is a just God.
His character is GOOD
The sun shines on us all doesnt it?
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But if (<--- remember that there is an "if" here) you are right in that both I and the glass are made by God, why did he make the glass sharp, and my feet vulnerable to sharp objects. Had he made the glass duller or my feet stronger I would not cut myself. Would that not be more kind of him?
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i dont do ifs :D
thats just silly anyway conc everyone knows glass needs to be sharp

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Of course not, rubber-foam is not sharp, could not God have made it like rubber-foam?
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