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Your view on homosexuality?
Topic Started: 17 Oct 2009, 08:54 PM (2,304 Views)
Concolor
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To follow word-by-word would be to stone people working on the sabbath, not wear clothes made of different thread, not covet thy neighbor's wife, believe the world was created in seven days, believe in the flood, believe in prayer, thinks anyone who follows another religion should be put to death, to not let cattle graze with other kinds of cattle, to not bear false witness against your neighbor etc.

What do you mean when you say one does not even have to be Christian to be Christian? I know you can be considered a "good Buddhist" even if you do not believe in Buddhism, but that is because Buddhists don't count belief in Buddhism as necessary. They just think it's easier to be good if you do. I was under the impression that you sorta need to accept Jesus as savior in order to be a Christian?
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20 Oct 2009, 10:11 PM

Gays are people, who are sinners, just like us.
......not.....really.........kinda.....just a gazillion times worse.
and its not bashing. its mild flaming a non member group. so there.
you know what i just realized? that every sin is just as bad as the other. so a little lie is as bad as a big lie, and murdering someone is as bad as disrespecting your parents.....scary.....
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Well then being gay is no worse than telling a white lie now is it?

Also, how do you know none in this forum is gay? Often people don't even know it themselves.
Edited by Concolor, 21 Oct 2009, 11:13 AM.
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maybe I was wrong about cheesebug being satirical... scary....

so all sin is equal? You're not serious are you... Having a cheeseburger is just as bad as blasphemy?
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well it is when you think the bible is a book of literal meaning only and you dont regard the context of anything ...yes...and if the think that 12 year olds are scary :) but not as scarey as a 12 year old with a bomb attached to themselves convinced they will die a martor and allah will be waiting with open arms.

your examples of wether things are "worse" or not dont make sense-what value does sin have ?

Personally i think its worse for you to encourage sickos by carrying porn around in your pocket.
I think you are deluding yourself if you think its O.k for the guys at work to look at your young Daughters privates or at very least only quote "uncool".
The question here is we have the bible as our moral code as opposed living life as your own God.

Yes the bible is clear on homosexuality.
The Koran is even clearer
The Hindus have their own Homosexual God you can pray to if you want....








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This belongs to the Pornography-thread but anyway
 
First of all, why are you so focused on privates? Would not my hypothetical wife be exited just from a picture of me with my shirt off? Hey, someone with a shoe-fetish would even get exited from a couple of sneakers. I think it's natural for my hypothetical wife to be sexually attracted to me, and would not count her as a sicko for having or carrying pictures of me with my shirt off.

12 year olds are just as scary when they're carrying bombs for Jesus, Nazism, Communism, the Japanese empire or because an older kid told them to do it. It's all about loyalty gone bad.

Do I understand you correctly when I interpret your post as saying that all sins are equally bad, no matter which sin they are?
Edited by Concolor, 21 Oct 2009, 12:10 PM.
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What is the correct context for not eating cheeseburgers and blasphemy then?

I've never heard of a homosexual Hindu deity. Can you be more specific please? There are a few deities which change gender and may be reincarnated as the opposite gender, but I haven't been able to find a homosexual one. (although I thought it counter-productive to be encouraging people to convert to Hinduism).

The bible may appear clear, but it is possible that the context in which it was written is no longer clear. We all know what a euphemism is. If I said it was bad to act bullish, it may be clear to you that I'm talking about being arrogant and dogmatic, but 2000 years time and a heap of translations, you might think I was actually talking about pretending to be a bull. Can you be sure that nothing like this is happening with the bible?

Incidentally, the Koran is much LESS clear on the issue of homosexuality than the Bible.

I'm sorry to keep doing this to you Arazec, but you keep making statements of fact that often aren't the case!
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the fact is that all sins are equal because... like i've said before... if you go into a dark room, how dark would you describe it to be? it's just dark. there is nothing darker than dark, or colder than cold. it's just cold. it's just dark. sin is an absence of god. just as dark is an absence of light,
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Junior, you can measure how light or dark a room is. you can also measure temperature.

how do you measure the presence or absence of God?
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21 Oct 2009, 03:20 PM
the fact is that all sins are equal because... like i've said before... if you go into a dark room, how dark would you describe it to be? it's just dark. there is nothing darker than dark, or colder than cold. it's just cold. it's just dark. sin is an absence of god. just as dark is an absence of light,
ooh, nice.
i had to look up satirical in the dictionary. dumb words...... yeah when i have an opinion, i express it :thumbs:
what junior said helped a lot to explain. a sin is a sin. its all bad. so they must be equal, right?
and since when is eating a cheesyburger a sin? :blink:
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In Deuteronomy 14:21 and Exodus 23:19 (and maybe elsewhere?) it is said one should not cook a kid in it's mother's milk. Many take this to mean that one should not eat meat and milk-products at the same time.
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conradw
21 Oct 2009, 04:01 PM
Junior, you can measure how light or dark a room is. you can also measure temperature.

how do you measure the presence or absence of God?
it's either there or it's not. you can't measure it. after the temperature reaches -476 degrees kelvin, it is impossible to get colder. when you're in a cave, there is absolutely no light, therefore an absence of light. no light at all. you can't have negative light, it's just zero.
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And your thermometer and silicon-diode light-detector will agree. How do you measure absence or presence of God?

(Sorry to butt in conradw, I don't even know where you're going with this but I'm just taking a chance that I understood your question well enough to jump in for a follow-up)
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its O.k both Con & Conc whats with the boys names starting with a C ? :ermm: could think of a few more....tag team now ay?

its O.k because the fact is what i am speaking is the truth-you can jump in jump up and down and jump round and round but it doesnt change the truth about God and the Gospels....its got nothing to do with how well you have rehearsed your debate :( sorry and neither does it have anything to do with how crappy i am at explaining it :) whats done is done and Jesus said its finished :D so the good news is just that GOOD NEWS
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Uh, I guess that is some sort of compliment so thank you :D

My problem is that I don't have any reason to assume that you are right when you are saying that it is the truth. Are you saying that this truth is subjective and it is the truth for you and you alone, or that it is objective reality and it is true for everyone?
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