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Topic Started: 20 Oct 2009, 09:52 PM (5,184 Views)
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Well, the "secular" part basically means "not church" or "atheistic". "Humanist", IMO, means that I believe that it is a human responsibility to work for the betterment of society, and that this betterment entails to lessen the suffering of individual humans and other animals (not all humanists include the others) as well as offering the best possibilities for personal development and joy. That is all.

It is my personal opinion that free enquiry is an important tool in this process, and though I've never met another humanist that disagrees with this, it is entirely possible for people to disagree and still be humanists. When it comas to a "free democratic society" I am unsure as to what extent it is the most beneficial to demand a "free" and "democratic" society. Can it ever be completely free, and would that involve anarchism? Is it enough to have some influence on society, through a semi-democratic system? I don't know, and I don't see any reason why humanists should be expected to only believe in this specific political system (though most probably prefer something like this).
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:Blink: I didn't know you were Atheist. I thought you were a christian, forum-daddy... (<--- No offense intended)
Edited by Midst Of Vampy, 9 May 2010, 10:19 AM.
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Nope, I'm an Agnostic Atheist.

Then again, I count anyone who locks their car as an Atheist :D
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I lock my car...Why does that make me an Atheist, I wonder?
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If you truly believe there's a benevolent God watching over you, why would you need to lock your car?

If God wants you to keep your car, he will make sure no one steals it. If someone steals it, it's all part of God's plan so who are you to go against it?
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and if god didnt love you he wouldnt have created you with a brain that can think for itself with the ability to feel an emotion which allows you to behave in a certain way when beneficial to yourself in certain circumstances we name as common sense :)
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How delightfully unrelated to any part of the discussion at hand ;)
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rather a dodgy response from the dodge accuser himself ! ;) ;)
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@Concolor
You're absolutely right, I mean, if God wants to have your car jacked, then he will create someone to jack your car.
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This reminds me of a few jokes.

Ever notice how many churches have lightening rods? :D

Heavy rain is hitting this village, and the authorities have decided to evacuate it and announce it on the radio. But one man says no, and stubbornly refuses to leave saying "I know that God will protect me and keep me safe."

And the waters start rising, and a jeep is sent to his house to get him to safety, but he says "No. I know that God will protect me and keep me safe."

And the waters rise some more and he's forced up to upper floor of the house and rescuers come in a boat to save him, but he says "No. I know that God will protect me and keep me safe."

And the waters keep rising and he's forced up onto the roof of his house and despite the storm a helicopter comes to rescue him but he says "No. I know that God will protect me and keep me safe."

And so the guy drowned. And he's in the afterlife, talking to God and he says "Listen you, I have faith that you'd protect me and keep me safe, but you let me down!" and God replies "Let you down? I sent the message on the radio, I sent the jeep, I sent a boat, I sent a whole freaking helicopter!"


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So to answer your question, if God didn't want me to lock my bike (I don't have a car) he wouldn't have given me a lock (yes, that justification can be used for everything).
But in terms of locking stuff, I don't stop anyone from copying my music collection, and every time I've checked, it's still there.
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Phew... I just seriously fell of of my chair reading that joke. That was hilarious!*Falls out of chair again*
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:D:D i'm glad you liked it
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Oh, my my.I still can't get over that. I wonder why it made me laugh so hard? That was the funniest joke I've ever heard, i think.
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one sunny morning executions began with 3 men- a rabbi, a Catholicpriest and an agnostic atheist.....

The rabbi was marched up onto the platform first- facing the guillotine he was asked if he had any last words-the rabbi cried out "I believe in the one and only true God, and He shall save me"
The executioner then positioned the rabbi below the blade setting the block above his neck and pulled the cord to set the terrible instrument in motion-the heavy cleaver plunged downward searing the air But !!!! then abruptly it stopped with a crack just a few inches above the would-be victim's neck !!! to which the rabbi said "I told you so."

"It's a miracle!" gasped the crowd and the executioner had to agree letting the rabbi go...

Next in line was the priest - asked for his final words he declared-"I believe in Jesus Christ the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost who will rescue me in my hour of need !"
The executioner then positioned this man beneath the blade and pulled the cord
again the blade flew downward thump! creak! ...stopping just short of its mark once more !!!!!!!

"Another miracle!" sighed the disappointed crowd and the executioner for the second time had no choice but to let the condemned go free.....

Now it was the agnostic atheists go "What final words have you to say?" he was asked
But the agnostic atheist didn't hear staring intently at the ominous engine of death he seemed lost
untill the executioner poked him in the ribs and the question was asked again did he reply....

"Oh, I see your problem," he said pointing "You've got a blockage in the gear assembly, right there!"

:D reminds me so much of Concolor....... :D

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hehe. i think there's some truth to that joke arazec.
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