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Topic Started: 20 Oct 2009, 09:52 PM (5,197 Views)
conradw
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you beat me to it concolor.
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Well, the issue of Israels land isn't exactly a new topic. Guess what I'm going to pull next? Yep, in the Bible.
The Israelites claimed their Land, that the moabites had occupied in their absence. The moabites didn't like this, so later they tried to get their land back.
Even though it was Israel's and well, you get the point. The thing is, Israel's been under persecution a long time and you can't say just because they got their country back all this is happening.
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Okay Luemas. Explain to me why you think the foundation of the state of Israel as a Jewish state is a good thing.

If you're Jewish, it makes sense. If you're not, I'm not sure I understand.
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So Lue, you a native American? :P
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Why Conc, are you Sami?

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Nope, that's why I don't use the "this or that land originally belonged to this and that people, therefore it is OK to forcefully claim in in their name"-argument.
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dO YOU HAVE SHARES IN mINERALS?
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eh...nO?
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:D Reindeer husbandry?
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Well, I eat reindeer, but I'm pretty low on husbandry.
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Actually Conc, I am Sioux Indian.
.0625 or so.
So yes, I think I can use that argument.
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I'm 1/16 Finnish, do you think the Russians would be happy if i came to Russia and claimed a piece of land that was Finnish before WWII? Do you think I would be right in doing so? And how long back should I be allowed to go in my ancestors history to find places I could claim as mine? Decades, centuries, millennia? Surely you must agree that such a practice would at best be inconvenient to a great number of people.
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well seeing as you think we all evolved from a big blob of blobby stuff in a random world of blobby stuff with no plan or purpose you cant be cranky.....
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First of all I'm only cranky due to a lack of sleep :P

Secondly, as you have yet to explain to me what exactly "a big blob of blobby stuff" means, I'm not sure if I really think that.
Edited by Concolor, 5 Nov 2009, 06:28 PM.
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I've lost faith in the notion of a religious/tribal/ethnic nation state.

The idea of a Jewish state is as abhorrent to me as an Aryan one.

Yes, I did pull a Godwin's. Deal with it.
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