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Gay Religion; GAY
Topic Started: 30 Nov 2009, 09:21 AM (8,275 Views)
Luemas
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That's ok.
And I've seen some curvy sticks.

But yeah.
I get your point.

OH WAIT! I'm as straight as a Euclidean line.

Those non-euclidean lines. Silly.
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Midst Of Vampy
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XD Let me tell you, I am absolutely not a curvy stick. I am 100% straight, but I have nothing against homosexuals/lesbians
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Luemas
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Yeah. That's good.
I don't have anything against them either.
Because that isn't their only characteristic, just a major one.

Just because I'm a sox fan doesn't make me a pair of socks. Well, kinda.
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conradw
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I had an experience that taught me I wasn't gay at all.
I was in a restaurant, at the bar. And I saw a person behind the bar, and I thought to myself "Wow! If there's any gay in me, its for that person!" (a few days ago my friend was trying to convince me that people fall on a continuum of straight, bi, and gay).
Then I heard that person speak and I realised the only man I had ever found really attractive was actually a girl with short hair.

Well needless to say, I've been very comfortable with my sexuality since.
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Heehee, that's a nice way to find out if you're not gay. I know I'm not gay because I hate most all the girls at my school. I'm pretty comfortable about my sexuality, too. Except, technically, I'm still a virgin, so I guess I aslways was comfortable with it.
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I have no reason to not be comfortable with it.
But, what were we talking about?
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@conradw: I firmly support your friend's idea of a continuum, since I know of very few things that do not form continua. You placing yourself firmly in one end of the spectrum proves nothing more than the possibility of being in one end of the spectrum.

To put my point more oafishly: I could easily imagine one of my friends not dating girls with short hair as he think they look too "manly". Would you not say he is more towards the strictly heterosexual (or heterophiliac, depending on which scale) end of the scale than you?
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@Luemas
Well, you're lucky. Not a lot of people feel totally comfortable about it. Me, I am pretty nervous and shy around people. I'm not really that confident about myself.
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About your leanings?
Why not?
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Just myself in general, it's just, I have never had many friends, and a lot of people degrade me. I don't really have anyone to stick by, so it's hard for me to try and fit in. I have never been to a party, EVER, not even a birthday party, I am currently single, which makes all of the stupid preppy cheerleading girls torture me, and well, I'm probably the only emo girl a my school.
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Geez, it's that bad being single at your school? This is my time to rant, about relationships in high school.

Ok. So you're 17. You can't get married for at least another year correct? You shouldn't be thinking about who you want to marry, the whole point of dating, but rather, you should be focusing on your studies, and doing your best in school. Schooling is more important at this time, as it is far more important than dating. Without school you won't be able to get a good job, with which to support your significant other.

School is a lot more important than you may put it up to be.
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Oh, of course I know it's important. The only reason why I am so focused on dating is because I get teased every day about it. I reeeeeeeeeally hate the girls at my school. I TRY to work on my studies, but you really have no idea what it's like for me. :(
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@concolor. Oddly enough, i would probably be that person you described. I don't normally go for girls with short hair. this one didn't have Brittney Spears short hair, but compared to a lot of girls it was quite short (probably slightly long for a boy...)

I have to say, I'm just not convinced by the continuum idea. I can get that some people are more macho and some people are more girlly, whatever their sex - sure (although I wouldn't suggest that this is the only dimension of personality). I get that some people prefer men, some people prefer women, some people prefer both equally. I can get that some people may prefer more girly girls and some people prefer more tomboyish girls and some people may prefer some flat out macho girls, but i don't know if I would say that means that someone who likes more quote-unquote manly women is more likely to like men as well.

For human sexuality to be truly a continuum, it would be more the region of the spectrum you prefer then the sex of the particular person. I'm not convinced that's actually the case, but as always i'm open to be proven wrong.
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@Vampira. For a change, I agree with Luemas in that you really shouldn't be thinking of marriage at 17 - yuck! I'm 23 and I freak at the thought of it! I'll also agree that your studies at this point are more important than obsessing about a boy.

I think I can understand why you might be concerned about feeling left out, or being a bit of a loner. We all have at one point or another in high-school. It sounds really hollow, but everyone feels alone at some point in high school. I remember being really grateful when the teacher picked the groups we would work in because that made it so much easier on the awkward teenager i was.
But if I have any advice? Don't be afraid to take a risk. Don't take yourself too seriously. and "be sincere in everything you do, even if you don't really mean it."
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The continuum would naturally largely consist of people we today lump together in the category "bi". In that some people may discover that say 73 % of the people they have been attracted to have been girls, whereas others may find that only 13 % have been girls.

Also, though I consider myself rather firmly on the straight side. I know I can let a guy kiss me on the cheek without vomiting (even if I know he does it in a romantic way), which is more than some other guys. I would therefore position myself ever so slightly more to the middle of the spectrum than said other guys. I also know straight guys who can kiss other guys on the mouth, which I could not. I would position them even further towards the center than where I am.
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