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| Concolor | 22 Aug 2010, 09:38 AM Post #31 |
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Funny, because I have many of the same questions that Vampira is posting, and I am very interested in learning about religions. If you read books by priests and theologians you will see that even they struggle with these thoughts. I agree that studying holy texts is interesting when learning about a particular religion, but pointing this out does not really answer the questions posed.Interesting, wouldn't God be the source? There is obviously no agreement between the different churches as to how to interpret the Bible, and reading it directly will probably give you your own interpretation, different from all the churches (otherwise churches wouldn't need to spend so much time on preaching and study-groups, and only recite from the Bible). People pick and choose what they want from these holy texts, and discard what they don't like. Two people who both claim to be Christians and follow the Bible can have radically different religions in practice. Therefore, pointing to the Bible does not tell me much about what you believe in, only you can do that. Vampira is going straight to the source, because she is asking about your religion. Fixing problems is immensely important, but not a substitute for asking questions. After all, how can you know that you're helping unless you understand how the world works? I'm relieved to see that you have this interpretation, but you do know there are other interpretations out there? And you speak about the "point of most religions" as if there was some board meeting at which these religions where put together, where the motto on the board was: "Our goal: make people be nice to each other". Do you think this is the case for most religions, or could their origins be more organic and chaotic? Edited by Concolor, 22 Aug 2010, 09:40 AM.
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Life is beautiful, love heals, people come through. Reason, compassion and love comes first. Everything else is secondary. Except for Skittles. - And emperor Cheezy!
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22 Aug 2010, 11:42 AM Post #32 |
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Well. Dragonshardz had the guts to put into words what I'm not quite as, brazen? to say. No offense. I remember, my grandmother quoted Saint Augustine in this, and paraphrase ahoy! A man can have all the eloquence and speak alot, and still say nothing. Ok, Saint Augustine had cooler adjectives then I did. But then again, that's why the Bible says, Faith without works is dead. |
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I think I'm Crazzzy. I think your crazy. I think your crazzzy... probably. | |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 22 Aug 2010, 05:14 PM Post #33 |
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Barabbas
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Believe it or not, I have TRIED to read the Bible. Don't even ask what happened. |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 22 Aug 2010, 05:14 PM Post #34 |
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Barabbas
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And thanks for getting my back Concolor
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22 Aug 2010, 07:58 PM Post #35 |
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Ah, I take it your mother didn't take too kindly to it? That would explain why you would refuse to read the bible, but you could always read it online. Biblegateway.com has the entire bible online. |
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I think I'm Crazzzy. I think your crazy. I think your crazzzy... probably. | |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 22 Aug 2010, 10:07 PM Post #36 |
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Nope, not even close. ![]() Much, much worse. and thank you to whomever changed the misspell on "Special." |
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22 Aug 2010, 11:18 PM Post #37 |
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That was me. Your undying gratitude and subservience would be a fitting gift. Or not. |
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I think I'm Crazzzy. I think your crazy. I think your crazzzy... probably. | |
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| dragonshardz | 23 Aug 2010, 12:12 PM Post #38 |
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Well, yes, but unless you have a direct line to him...
The entire point of telling her to read the Bible is that I want her to come to her own conclusions. As for the picking and choosing, yeah, I admit it, I'm guilty of that.
Most likely more organic or chaotic than a board meeting. This is coming from my interpretation of religions I have studied. I'm aware that there are discrepancies and alternative interpretations, but this is how I view things. Anyway, I did sort of answer the question of what I believe in my post. It's not too hard to extrapolate my beliefs from what I have said. Vampira, why did reading the Bible "not go well"? It's a just a book. I know there are some people who ascribe supernatural powers to it, but it's just a book. |
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I lurk a lot on this forum, and am very busy in real life, so don't be surprised if I take a couple days, or even weeks, to reply to your post or PM. GENERATION 11: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any other forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment. | |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 23 Aug 2010, 12:28 PM Post #39 |
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Barabbas
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Ah...Don't ask. It's worse than you could think.
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| Midst Of Vampy | 23 Aug 2010, 12:30 PM Post #40 |
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I don't think so, Lue.
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| Midst Of Vampy | 23 Aug 2010, 12:35 PM Post #41 |
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Well of course I don't have a direct line to him. I HAVE come to my own conclusions, but I'm asking what YOU think. Don't you think that's okay? I mean, I know what I believe, I know what I think is true, but now I want to know what you think about it. As far as studies go, how can you study facts about religion when most of them are beliefs? I understand that you CAN study religion, but can you make an entire religion fact?
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23 Aug 2010, 12:58 PM Post #42 |
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For Christians to assume that God will simply protect you from suffering, is simplistic, and a bad reading of Scripture. We are special because we are empowered to function and discover cures and the like...but at the end of the day...your belief or dis-belief in God has done NOTHING to ease your pain. Of what connection is there in the concept of life and death as a consequence and reward for who is least and most special? Because I'm hearing this: Special people live longer Non-special people live lesser Therefore, God loves special people more This makes no sense at all... Let's say for arguments sake that God doesn't exist. This does not change the fact that people are still suffering, children are dying of hunger... Great...now you're angry at a God that may not exist...and you don't even have a justification for being angry anymore. Shit, the fact that you are alive is a random oddity. Why should our emotions be anything but more of the same? |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 23 Aug 2010, 01:25 PM Post #43 |
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Exactly! ![]() Okay, THIS is a great answer. It truly is random that we're even alive right now, Though I am glad to be alive. Pat, that;s what I have been trying to say the whole time that I was here, is that GOD IS A BELIEF. He may, or may not exist. |
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| Midst Of Vampy | 23 Aug 2010, 01:28 PM Post #44 |
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Oh and Patrick, for some reason I can't pm you back, so that's why I haven't sent the message.
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| Concolor | 23 Aug 2010, 02:39 PM Post #45 |
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Barabbas
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@dragonshardz:That would most certainly help Sure, but that's a different discussion altogether no? |
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I understand that you CAN study religion, but can you make an entire religion fact?

6:42 PM Jul 10