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What do you think; Judaism
Topic Started: 21 Aug 2010, 09:20 AM (1,083 Views)
Luemas
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I think you're misinterpreting the message. For 14:15, he isn't saying that we should take all the restrictions of the world, and only eat the food that isn't banned. We'd all be anorexic.

I think what it's saying is, don't invite a Muslim or Jewish family over for Ham on Thanksgiving, or whatever holidays you have over there in Norway.

Also, I've been meaning to say this for a while, but I really have to give you props Concolor for debating religion on a Christian forum in a different language then your native one.
That's pretty awesome.
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Rose: Catholics, especially Latino Catholics, worship the saints and the image of Jesus/God.

Examples: Various relics (St. Peter's Shinbone!), kissing the feet of a bronze image of Jesus during Mass, etc.

Go watch The Boondock Saints, there are a few examples in the beginning of the movie.
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Doesn't the boondock Saints have several hundred f-bombs?

Or atleast way more than it should?
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@Luemas:
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I think you're misinterpreting the message.
Well, this is the point where I say I think you're misinterpreting the message. :)
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We'd all be anorexic.
Would you not go without food if God told you to?
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Also, I've been meaning to say this for a while, but I really have to give you props Concolor for debating religion on a Christian forum in a different language then your native one.
That's pretty awesome.
Thanx, and while we're in the flattery corner: You are by far one of the most mature and rational minds I've ever been on the opposite side of the discussion table of when it comes to religions. Most importantly, you have intellectual honesty: You and I may not always agree, but where many others answer difficult questions with sidestepping, re-framing or simply any number of fallacious thinking, you usually employ logic, scrutiny and knowledge to find an answer.

Several times you have made me stand corrected, and I have tremendous respect for that.

Now let's get back to quarreling :D
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If God told me to go without food, I'd be the world's biggest sinner.

Either that, or try to figure out how to live off of IV.

That would suck, getting all nutrients via Intravenous... I'm pretty sure that would make me a lot thinner too...

But I don't think God would tell us to go without food, considering how he made fruit and whatnot in the garden for us to eat.

Or atleast let it grow.
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You do have a point.

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yeah Luemas is very smart i totally agree :thumbs:

Many people answer difficult questions with sidestepping & re-framing & simply any number of fallacious thinking and if that fails just saying that they dont beleive in anything !
so Good on ya Luemas for having intelectual honesty AND an opinion that includes your Christian beleifs and viewpoint :thumbs:
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Of course he's smart. It's no secret. ;)
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Hi Im new here and all I have to say is I am Christian and proud to be one but to tell the truth I dont believe in the whole armageddon thing. That was just something some man wrote about who probably had a misunderstanding. I do believe in the rapture though and telling from the times we live in its getting pretty close and about the whole not all Christians disaprove homosexuality is true. Im nondenominational (if thats the right way to spell it LOL) and I believe that even though God's first intention was that a man be with a woman he still love everyone and excepts everyone and I also believe that everyone has a chance to have a close personal relationship with HIM. :)
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Hi Gizmo123! And :welcome: to the forums!

I hope you'll enjoy it here :)

May I ask why you think there will be a rapture, but not an armageddon?
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My question to you is... (you've released the hounds now haven't you) why do you assume that conservative Christians, (which I consider myself) don't think God loves homosexuals?
If you're referring to the Westboro Baptist Church, they are so wrong, I don't know how to talk about them.
I'm a Christian, but for me, homosexuality is as much a sin as pornography or masturbation.
I will admit, I struggle with masturbation, yet that doesn't make me a Christian. My end goal is to no longer be a masturbater, so should the final goal of a Christian who finds himself caught up in homosexuality.

If I wasn't clear enough, I can explain myself better... I know I have a tendency to assume people understand me when they don't...
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Im sorry I said anything Im sorry I didnt want to start a debate just voice my opinion. I do believe that God loves everyone and if homosexuality was a sin then it would have said so on the 10 commandments. Those are Gods law's and as long as you abide by them you are ok. That is what I believe and God does love everyone (except satan and demons ofcourse) and everyone has a second chance and to answer the question about the rapture and the armageddon I know which one is true because the rapture was stated in the bible and the armageddon was stated by some idiot who got everyone else to believe it. This is the last time I will be saying anything on these forums because if it is going to cause an argument I dont want a part of it. You all are in my prayers :)
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:'( well thats a shame !
we dont argue we exchange,explain & offer evidence of our opinions.
we like to debate,learn & appreaciate other ppls viewpoints.

o.k I apologize for speaking for others but thats how I SEE IT.

I doubt you can genuinely communicate with anybodyfor long without coming to some points of difference when exploring anything worth talking about !

In addition sometimes we !@#$ up,are mean to each other,act foolishly,gang up on each other,make fun of each other,not all get along with each other & not even speak to each other ! but the great thing is we eventually forgive each others offences,mistakes & shortcomings....

Yep, we are a regular family in the true sense of the word.

There is nothing to be sorry about Gizmo123 , sometimes i start debates to find out the depth of someones beleifs even when i primarily share the same viewpoint.

But if from how Ive described this forum it that aint your thing then it aint your thing........ :) its all good

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No, really, it's not me being mean, it's just how I get to know people, it's good to debate a little here and there.
Iron sharpens iron.

Also, It's interesting, it's not mentioned in the 10 commandments you say. But I say to you... that it is.
The 10 commandments say to not commit adultery, adultery, in it's strictest sense, sex outside of marriage.
Now... I guess my real question here is, what's your definition of marriage?

...And Armageddon is mentioned in the Bible... Revelations 16.

Again, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean or offensive, I just want to learn more about you and your beliefs. I'm not saying you have to accept mine, (I try not to be THAT egotistical ay?) but that you know... you have a good reason for it and stuff...
I'm sorry, I hate to sound condescending...
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we dont argue we exchange,explain & offer evidence of our opinions.
we like to debate,learn & appreaciate other ppls viewpoints.

o.k I apologize for speaking for others but thats how I SEE IT.

I doubt you can genuinely communicate with anybodyfor long without coming to some points of difference when exploring anything worth talking about !

In addition sometimes we !@#$ up,are mean to each other,act foolishly,gang up on each other,make fun of each other,not all get along with each other & not even speak to each other ! but the great thing is we eventually forgive each others offences,mistakes & shortcomings....

Yep, we are a regular family in the true sense of the word.
Yea we really are like one HUGE family of like 750 ppl.

we all help eachother with what we can- it's a lot of fun, even when u think you've got something right & then u get corrected in front of everyone. it's just another new piece of information to remember.
Work hard, make mistakes, & think before you act, because life is too short to live with regrets.
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