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Young Pregnancy
Topic Started: 31 Mar 2011, 05:57 PM (1,534 Views)
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Here's a little PL to put in the debate section-
So, my friend of 13 years (like me-tallyho) was a dummy and fooled around with some stuff she shouldn't have at a party about a month ago. Long story short, she's pregant (God knows I've dealt with all this, but fate kinda eliminated my problems). Now I have a lot of friends who are sexually active and we believe in the glory of Planned Parenthood and it's freeness, and PP also gives free abortions here. This girlie is kindof in a pit now, her family has no mone for a new member, and she's considering abortion. I know all of us who are Christian or just po9litically correct are against abortion (its murder, etc) but this girl is THIRTEEN. No money, job, and is still going to school. So I ask, what would be the best for HER? She hasn't told any adults yet. I don't have a clue what to do for her, because as I said, nature just kinda worked my problems out for me.
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Well, you can hope nature will work it out for her.
Adoption is always an option, and probably the better one.
She would need to tell her parents of course, as well as the father. Unless she doesn't know the father.
I don't know.

Pray for her. She needs it.
I'll pray for her atleast, even though I don't know her.
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Well, unless yiu havent already guessed, she doesn't come from a greatly supportive family. Her father is dead and her mother's a druggie, and the father is some highschooler. i dunno. It's a pretty nasty situation.
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Yikes.
I'm really sorry...
I mean, I really don't know what to say...
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Hm, there seems to be an unhealthy trend in your area with teen pregnancies and underage sex, but that's besides the point right now.

My advice is that she should talk to adults that she can trust. If not her mom, then perhaps someone else in her family, her doctor, school nurse, teacher or similar. The reason why we have an age of consent is because people under this age should not have to be burdened with such grave troubles. If someone gets angry with her, then it is better for them to be angry now than in six months when she can no longer hide it and they find out the hard way.
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My advice is she should get an abortion. Abortion is not murder and here is why.
At that stage, in the womb there is a bundle of cells and tissue and what not that could POSSIBLY become a child. Terminate it before it becomes a child.

I am actually doing a speech on abortion but I won't post it up here because it might bore you.
Really, I honestly think she should.
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Ah, but by that thought, I could kill you saying, she's just a bundle of cells and tissue. She could become an adult.

(I know this isn't the place for discussing abortion, but... just thought I'd say that.)

Also, maybe there's a family out there that's infertile, and they want a baby.

Not only do you snuff out the possibility of life, you also snuff out that family getting the child they want.

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...which is why you must go and impregnate a girl right now Lue, otherwise your sperm cells and her egg cell will be murdered by your unwillingness to impregnate (unless you think of them as "just a bundle of cells and tissue"). Think of all the childless couples you would help by impregnating a lot of girls :P

Obviously, there are practical reasons for why the definition of a human being with the right to life-preservation lies somewhere in between reproductive cells and a fully mature adult. Where exactly this border is drawn varies. Many religions have their own definitions on where this border lies, and depending on her personal beliefs this girl might want to look into some of these definitions. There are also legal definitions: In Norway this border is considered crossed when the fetus is 22 weeks old, in Great Britain it is 28 weeks. I do not know which week it is according to US law.

However, if she does decide to go for abortion it is absolutely vital that this is done by a proper medical physician (either at the PP or a hospital or clinic). She must not try to do this herself, with the help of friends, by using some kind of remedy not administered by a licensed doctor or "some lady who has done this a million times"! Abortion is a medical procedure and should be handled by medical personnel. Otherwise she risks becoming sterile or in extreme cases even die. (I don't mean to scare, but the use of clothes-hangers or knitting-pins have cost many young girls their fertility and even some lives throughout history).

If her mother is not capable of taking care of her, she should have a legal guardian appointed to her by the state (at least that's what happens in Norway). Does she have such a guardian, and is he/she someone she could talk to about this?
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Concolor has a point although his logic isnt logical because there exsists a definable difference between murder & death by natural causes.

the fact is people exsist who for whatever reason dont want to or cant keep the soul that has begun to grow inside of them.However for whatever reason dont want to or cant bring themselves to terminate it.
Adoption as an alternative is an option thats often never considered.




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I agree with ARAZEC (on the second part), she should consider all her options carefully. - And with the help of an adult.

I also think that the guy who got her pregnant needs to be informed, he is just as responsible for what happened as she is. He should not have sex with someone unless he's prepared for the potential consequences.
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Ah, but by that thought, I could kill you saying, she's just a bundle of cells and tissue. She could become an adult.

(I know this isn't the place for discussing abortion, but... just thought I'd say that.)

Also, maybe there's a family out there that's infertile, and they want a baby.

Not only do you snuff out the possibility of life, you also snuff out that family getting the child they want.

I'm sorry if my explination or opinion was implying that I cared not for a life?...

There are so many children in the world already that do not have homes, and starve, and have no family or anybody. Why would we want to bring another life into this world that those things could happen to? And why wouldn't a family who wants to adopt this child, just as easily adopt another child that needs help that is already born?

Yes, she could become an adult. I never said she couldn't. I merely wished to say she isn't alive yet so it's not murder.

I am completely for life. But I am not for a life that could possibly be terrible. Do you know how hard it is for kids to be put into a foster home? or up for adoption? Thinking when they're older "I must have been just a problem to them...just an obsticle." So WHY IN THE WORLD would we put another child into the world in a time of war and hate and poverty???

I'm sorry, but I had to say something.
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And Concolor- I agree with you on all points you made just there. Very logical, and she definitely should tell the guy who got her pregnant.
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I've heard how terrible the foster system is.
My own pastor was a foster child.
I have friends who were foster children.
All of them came from mother's who were too young, and had children too young.

It's a sad thing, one of them needs yet another kidney transplant, because his mother did a few drugs while she was pregnant with him, and he was born without them.

It's by no means a perfect world. People's actions now have repercussions later, that have effects we can't imagine.

Who knows? Maybe they'll turn out for the better. Maybe for the worse. It's up to God to determine.

(Also, you agree with Concolor that I should go out and impregnate as many girls as I can? Well then, why not. Better call up my girlfriend.)
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Hahaha I knew he was kidding about that part. I am entirely against that part. :blink:

And yes, it's very said indeed.
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I am completely for life. But I am not for a life that could possibly be terrible. Do you know how hard it is for kids to be put into a foster home? or up for adoption? Thinking when they're older "I must have been just a problem to them...just an obsticle." So WHY IN THE WORLD would we put another child into the world in a time of war and hate and poverty???


anylife could possibly be terrible
adoption can possibly work - there exsists possibilities to improve it if more people who care help make it possible...
adopted children could also think when they were older "wow I was blessed because I was given a chance to exsist & now i can bless another unwanted child"
there has never not been a time without war,hate or poverty.

The question here is who if anyone has the right to choose to end the possibilities that have begun ?
if there was no life begginning & what was being terminated was just a bunch of cells that isnt a new life then there would be no reason to terminate it.

Im not pro or anti abortion-I wouldnt tell anyone what they should do with their own body and neither do i think that anyone has the right to decide what is best for another persons life for them.
or take away another life or decide that a life has no right to exsist


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