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Christians vs Athiests; The debate continues...
Topic Started: 27 Oct 2011, 09:26 PM (716 Views)
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So, I have been thinking.

Christians (Or at least most of them anyway) Are convinced that there is only one God, yes?
Wouldn't that make them not only Christians, but Athiests?
You guys have the exact look of Athiests outside of Christianity.
You don't believe in other gods, you believe them to be false. So you're not only one religion, if you count Athiesm as a religion.
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Im not sure I understand how viewing God as being God is the same as an athiest that believes there is no God :blink: to those that beleive in multiple Gods ?

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If you don't believe in a religion, in their god, you are an athiest for that religion, whether you believe in your own god or not.
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Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.
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Athiesm can be taken several different ways.
Most Athiests don't believe in any form of god whatsoever.
But if you don't believe in a relgion, that makes you an Athiest, yes? If you don't believe in that god.
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You can give it whatever meaning you want but I will not even consider calling myself an Athiest because of that one meaning that we all know very well. That is that Athiests don't believe in the one and only true God.

Christians (Or at least most of them anyway) Are convinced that there is only one God, yes? - Not not most of us, all of us... the one's that don't believe are not part of the group-
Wouldn't that make them not only Christians, but Athiests? - Nope-
You guys have the exact look of Athiests outside of Christianity. - Here's the thing tho... were not outside of God, so were not outside of Christianity so no again-
You don't believe in other gods, you believe them to be false. So you're not only one religion, if you count Athiesm as a religion. - We don't believe in other Gods but believe in the one true God so were in the truth and not a man-made religion at all-


Christians are not Athiests, end of discussion.

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Woah, who's this Calmador?

Nice to meet you. Mistook you for concolor for a second...
Edited by Luemas, 1 Nov 2011, 08:25 PM.
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You can give it whatever meaning you want but I will not even consider calling myself an Athiest because of that one meaning that we all know very well. That is that Athiests don't believe in the one and only true God.

Christians (Or at least most of them anyway) Are convinced that there is only one God, yes? - Not not most of us, all of us... the one's that don't believe are not part of the group-
Wouldn't that make them not only Christians, but Athiests? - Nope-
You guys have the exact look of Athiests outside of Christianity. - Here's the thing tho... were not outside of God, so were not outside of Christianity so no again-
You don't believe in other gods, you believe them to be false. So you're not only one religion, if you count Athiesm as a religion. - We don't believe in other Gods but believe in the one true God so were in the truth and not a man-made religion at all-


Christians are not Athiests, end of discussion.

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darn....was just gonna say something......but you ended the discussion :P
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Atheism is when you dont believe that a god exists so its very complicate to mark someone so easly but then from my point of view...well i dont believe in any god cuz i think WE are the ones who takes desiscions and that i really dont like the idea of being a puppet or a tool but im still open minded for ideas or believes cuz i also believe in the supernatural there are just thinks you cant explain and you dont really need to mark something or give it a name just be amazed.

p.d: sry my english but im from Perú so im not so good at this XD
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So you believe in the supernatural, but you don't like the idea of predestination. What if I told you predestination and free will could co-exist?
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What if I said you could lack both predestination AND free will? ;)
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Where does that leave us then? Unable to make our own decisions, and unable to have a destiny.
We can safely assume that neither is true. Although our subconscious shows a modicum more control over our controls than our conscious' do.
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:welcome: Aldon
Love Peru xD Yep,we dont need to label everything but we need communication to relate....so from the beginning of Human History the concept of God & a knowingness has been defined despite geographic bounaries.
So there seems at least some evidence thats there exsists something more & something out there more than not on that point alone.
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Luemas: Well, with the thing of predestination it makes the free will a complete fake because you would make your choice but still be part of someones ideas and with the part of the mind i think its formed of what you've been told or your own expirience.

Arazec: By the label i meant that we all gives names to everything wich i dont think we need. Yeah we need some kind of lenguage or "labels" to comuicate but not to stick it like a patch to something and everytime you mention that you just think of the patch...also thnx for the welcoming :D

I dont believe in a god personally wich i said XD...its because a religion or actually evertything its name, mark or percept(if this word exists XD) by different things, my point is that religion is all of that...religion is believe so that changes with differents persons like a beam of light could be considered as GOD or a giant turtle with glasses that its shooting beams out of his eyes.
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