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The Big Picture.; A not-so-new outlook on things?
Topic Started: 15 Mar 2012, 05:38 PM (400 Views)
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So, I've been thinking for a very long time but never knew how to say the things I've wanted to say up until now. There are Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Athiests, Agnostics, etc.
So many people have been, and are being killed over beliefs. So many people are judged and criticized every day because of beliefs.
Many religions focus on one God.
Several religions also focus on several Gods.
A lot of people who believe in a god, or many gods, believe they're correct for believe in their god. Many try to convince other people that they're right, that they will be damned if they don't believe in a certain god.
The reason it's called a "belief" is because you believe in it. does it make you right? No.
Does it make you wrong? No.
Nobody has the right to say someone else is wrong, or a "sinner" because they don't believe in what they believe. If someone is white, does it mean they're more meaningful than an African American, or an asian, or anyone? No.
Because someone is African American does it mean they are more important, or better than some other race? No.
People will always have their own opinions and beliefs, but I want all of you to realize that because of these beliefs, thousands, and even hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, harmed, threatened, etc.
Why have people come to the conclusion that it's okay to harm people because they see things differently?
what if everyone's wrong and no one is right?
Is everyone so confident in they're beliefs that they are willing to kill people over it?

By all means, I'm not saying at all that every single person who is a believer, or non-believer has killed or harmed someone over it. Honestly, MOST people haven't done anything to harm people over beliefs.

But take a second to think about this, how much more peaceful would the world be if there weren't people who tried to convert, or if there weren't people who tried to make people seek out a god, ore gods.

I love people not because of their religion, I hate people not because of their religion, but because of who they choose to be. People are just people, there aren't people who are better than anybody else, there aren't people who are worse. I think everyone should get along and realize that things won't change unless we realize everyone has to be willing. :3
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Do you love all people however? It sure would be nice if everyone could just jump around the camp fire and sing kum bay yah. Or however it's spelled. However, as long as humans are, well, human, it doesn't seem like we're going to solve all of our problems magically.
The main problem with humans is that we all fear. And some people react to fear differently. They fear their lack of power, and so they become power mongers, and toss aside everybody. As long as humans face death, we'll have people like those.
Then there are people who fear their own fear, and so they suppress it, seeing it as weakness. They are the apathetic, the uncaring.
Then there are those who fear for others, and those are the people we like. I know my philosophy of fear is strange, but I find it has a rather pervasive truth to it.
Until we learn to stop being afraid of differences, strangers, and oddities, we can never achieve true unity in a society.

Man, I don't even know where I went with that post.
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That's what I mean, I completely agree with you. I think people should start working harder to achieve that though, because it *isn't* impossible.
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And that's where we disagree. Sorry. Human's will always be fallible. We can get really really good, but we'll never be perfect.
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Who says that's perfect? Of course no one will ever be perfect, and I don't mean that *everyone* could, or would be like that, but there is ALWAYS room for improvement, why doom something you haven't tried?
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Every time humanity has tried an utopian society, it has failed without exception. It only takes one bad person to ruin the whole batch, and there's no way to account for bad people. You could brainwash all the people to be good, but that leaves a corrupt government. Perhaps our discord is good for humanity. It's our discord that keeps us from working together to kill us all. When people unite, either very good things happen... or very bad things happen.
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15 Mar 2012, 05:38 PM
So, I've been thinking for a very long time but never knew how to say the things I've wanted to say up until now. There are Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Athiests, Agnostics, etc.
So many people have been, and are being killed over beliefs. So many people are judged and criticized every day because of beliefs.
Many religions focus on one God.
Several religions also focus on several Gods.
A lot of people who believe in a god, or many gods, believe they're correct for believe in their god. Many try to convince other people that they're right, that they will be damned if they don't believe in a certain god.
The reason it's called a "belief" is because you believe in it. does it make you right? No.
Does it make you wrong? No.
Nobody has the right to say someone else is wrong, or a "sinner" because they don't believe in what they believe. If someone is white, does it mean they're more meaningful than an African American, or an asian, or anyone? No.
Because someone is African American does it mean they are more important, or better than some other race? No.
People will always have their own opinions and beliefs, but I want all of you to realize that because of these beliefs, thousands, and even hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, harmed, threatened, etc.
Why have people come to the conclusion that it's okay to harm people because they see things differently?
what if everyone's wrong and no one is right?
Is everyone so confident in they're beliefs that they are willing to kill people over it?

By all means, I'm not saying at all that every single person who is a believer, or non-believer has killed or harmed someone over it. Honestly, MOST people haven't done anything to harm people over beliefs.

But take a second to think about this, how much more peaceful would the world be if there weren't people who tried to convert, or if there weren't people who tried to make people seek out a god, ore gods.

I love people not because of their religion, I hate people not because of their religion, but because of who they choose to be. People are just people, there aren't people who are better than anybody else, there aren't people who are worse. I think everyone should get along and realize that things won't change unless we realize everyone has to be willing. :3
For starters.... the word God is a title

God can be anything you decide, it can be a sport... do you ever notice how some sports fans... live for their sports team. Wear jerseys, pant thier faces... talk and dream about sports 24/7.... like a religion... like a God. Anything can be a God. It's a label/title. There will always be God or Gods... usually Gods tho I imagine.

Anyways, the title of God is only rightly given to Jesus.

Now... this is what you said and this is one of your main points if not the main point.... "Nobody has the right to say someone else is wrong, or a "sinner" because they don't believe in what they believe."

You said that... so I ask you, if that's true... then why are YOU telling me I'm wrong in what I believe which IS to call myself and everyone else sinners because of God's word, specifically the Law, Ten commandments.

That thing... thats why I believe in God. You don't have the right, I don't have the right to tell anybody what's right or wrong... nobody does... except God. God should be the one that says right or wrong.

Jesus said "Love your enemies"

Something to think about.
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Nobody has the right to say someone else is wrong, or a "sinner" because they don't believe in what they believe
Well then we all kinda agree with this quote then except about from God having a right to exsist & a right to call a wrong a wrong i suppose ?

Except- sinning doesnt make you wrong its just that by definition sin is wrong.
Did you perhaps mean that no one can tell you what is a sin ?
In which case my opinion is that sin is seperation from God-in other words sin only exsists where people remove themselves from Gods presense, like a place of darkness can be described as a place of no light.
Once a person choses to invite God into their life their sin is washed away-God has no impurity-the limitation is not on God -it is on sin-its sin that can not coexsist with an omnipresent God.

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