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Rogue talent : Offensive defensive
Topic Started: May 25 2015, 08:51 AM (203 Views)
Kuruichi_n
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Offensive Defense** (Ex): When a rogue with this talent hits a creature with a melee attack that deals sneak attack damage, the rogue gains a +1 dodge bonus to AC for each sneak attack die rolled for 1 round.

Source : http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/coreClasses/rogue.html

Question :
1.Does this bonus stacks? (for example i use TWF to hit a creature twice, and roll 3d6 sneak attack damage twice, does that mean i got +6 AC or +3 AC?)
2.Does this bonus applies to all creature or only to the creature that i attacked?
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1. Dodge bonus always stack with any bonus.
2. From the wording, you gain bonus for any enemies.
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Lavarel
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http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ld6h?Bride-of-the-FAQ-Attack

http://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/27025/rogue-talent-offensive-defense

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Edited by Lavarel, May 26 2015, 11:01 AM.
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SKR himself admitted that the RAW is broken, and it was caused by the change from circumstance bonus to the stackable dodge bonus. But if you asked the 'rules-as-written' from the wording, my answers remain the same.
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-Bonus-
Bonuses are numerical values that are added to checks and statistical scores. Most bonuses have a type, and as a general rule, bonuses of the same type are not cumulative (do not “stack”)—only the greater bonus granted applies.

The important aspect of bonus types is that two bonuses of the same type don't generally stack. With the exception of dodge bonuses, most circumstance bonuses, and racial bonuses, only the better bonus of a given type works. Bonuses without a type always stack, unless they are from the same source.

From the definition , i think it was clear that RAW the dodge bonuses stacks. And from the wording, the bonuses applies to all creatures. I just want to know if this is allright, or maybe the CGM wants to make a houserules. But i think this talent is not so overpowered knowing that later on the game there will be creatures that immune to sneak attack.
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Quoting the FAQ on paizo blog.

While we haven’t reached a final decision on what to do about this talent, we are leaning toward this solution: the dodge bonus only applies against the creature you sneak attacked, and the dodge bonus does not stack with itself.

I Think i am swayed by their words, in another words, i am leaning to those solution as well

However, this may be not my final word about it.

A.k.a i made their words my words
Credit and thanks to
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- Silvarion campaign by Dimas.
- Pathfinder roleplaying game by Paizo Publishing
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Campaign rules and setting can be found here
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