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Topic Started: May 27 2015, 03:55 PM (223 Views)
Innocent
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Can we take the 'Activate Blindly' from UMD to cast a scroll?

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/skills/useMagicDevice.html#use-magic-device
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seems fun. Would like to see it used in-game.
Let's wait for CGM's answer
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It' a gray area (? ), however, as mentioned here http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2khcf?Use-Magic-Device-and-scrolls

my opinion is heavy to the "you can't" side.
a person there said something that fits my opinion nicely.
a specific rules overrides general rules.

a specific use of skills overrides general use of the skill.
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Activate Blindly: Some magic items are activated by special words, thoughts, or actions. You can activate such an item as if you were using the activation word, thought, or action, even when you're not and even if you don't know it. You do have to perform some equivalent activity in order to make the check. That is, you must speak, wave the item around, or otherwise attempt to get it to activate. You get a +2 bonus on your Use Magic Device check if you've activated the item in question at least once before. If you fail by 9 or less, you can't activate the device. If you fail by 10 or more, you suffer a mishap. A mishap means that magical energy gets released but doesn't do what you wanted it to do. The default mishaps are that the item affects the wrong target or that uncontrolled magical energy is released, dealing 2d6 points of damage to you. This mishap is in addition to the chance for a mishap that you normally risk when you cast a spell from a scroll that you could not otherwise cast yourself.


By RAW, one of the interpretation is it should be able to be done, since the paragraph itself mentioned implicitly that you can cast a scroll using this method.

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Edited by Innocent, May 29 2015, 06:10 PM.
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I still think to disallow it, since the mishap is rules that i personally won't be using.

so yeah, in my opinion, you still can't activate a scroll blindly. same as activating wands blindly.
Of course, it would be a different case if you actually, really doesn't know doesn't have an idea of what is in the scroll, or in the wand or anything.
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- Pathfinder roleplaying game by Paizo Publishing
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