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Happy Birthday!; Well well well...
Topic Started: Apr 4 2009, 01:25 PM (8,280 Views)
TheDeepDark
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Ignoring it's inherent problems being the R-rated vampire film that it is, you could always go with "Underworld."
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Snofox Kari
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:[ ya know...people only like shakespear for his language...but the stories aren't all they're cracked up to be

a mid summer night's dream is not a comedy...it's a mess

romeo and juliet is not a tragedy...it's a pathetic mess

hamlet....that one could pass, but still pretty screwed up...though gotta give it points for originality i guess ;P

cesar...hrm...no comment

(just to name the one's i'm familiar with)
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towr
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Why would "mess" rule out comedy or tragedy?
Not that I agree in either case -- other than that the characters mess up and make bad decisions. But how many stories doesn't that go for, really? The stories themselves, given that the characters are idiots, are crafted well enough. The plot hangs together (and not as a tangle) and gets resolved. In what way are they a mess?
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Snofox Kari
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it does tanle even if it hold well :/ the characters just have a bad time...neither funny nor tragic...i don't really feel for them at all, it's more a drag to go through it than to laugh at it or feel any remorse towards the characters...they stir up no emotion in me that would go to their given categories
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Me
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oh gosh...why did you bring it up, Me? WHY?!
You made Me think of it with bringing up the play itself. I just made sure you had to remember the hot pink blood and gunswords. :P :lol:

@towr: I chose it over the others because I thought such a concept could very well be cool... but there was really rather little with it that wasn't painful for Me.

... I suppose I likely wouldn't have felt any more fulfilled with a traditional watching, though; I'll grant that. It's a painful play.
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towr
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I suppose what you get out of a story always depends on the reader to some extend. I found Midsummer night's dream funny enough (the first time around. Though like most comedies it wears thin the second time.) And similarly I found Romeo and Juliet tragic enough.
Heck, I had to read a Midsummer night's dream, at a time when I didn't like reading in general, and I still liked it. I have to give old William some credit for that, cause that certainly can't be said for all the books I had to read.
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Snofox Kari
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yeah, if yer gonna compare to more recent works, there's no competition
and definately the reader makes a difference...i guess i'm just so habituated that's it's extremely hard to impress me
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Much Ado About Nothing remains one of my favorite plays (and movie) of all time, so I don't have anything against Shakespeare; but Romeo and Juliet I liked better in 30 seconds because I don't feel like it misses any character development or jokes substantial enough to justify multiplying that time by 200. :P It might perhaps be my disposition that makes me just think "Wow. That's idiotic." instead of "Wow. That's sad.", but really, death via lovestruck miscommunication is "-___-"
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Thanks, guys. BUT HAS ELYS EVEN SEEN IT YET?! 8D

And I sort of agree with Kari. Romeo and Juliet was a pathetic mess. Sure it was tragic, but almost every death was ridiculously uncalled for. I didn't find it funny in the least bit, but then again their ancient jokes. It was just about a bunch of kids who did things without thinking of their consequences, overreactions, and nobody used their head except maybe the friar, And parents who had bad ideals for their children(such as fighting for a reason long lost) thus leading to a great loss. Wasn't that great.
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Snofox Kari
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yup...and love it, Me :lol: that's the total embodiment of it all! XD

i guess shakespear might argue it was all to bring two feuding families to realize that family feuds are stupid...but these kids just has a light crush on each other

Romeo: Rosalie! I love you!

Rosalie: Get lost, twit.

Romeo: Drat... *spots Juliet* Juliet, I love you!

Juliet: He LOVES me!!! *fakes death*

Romeo: Hahah, it worked! ...wait...she's dead? ok whatever i have magic poison :D, *dies*

Juliet: NUUUU! *stab self, dies*

...no love here...just stupid kids XP who eventually comit suicide cuz they're all emo and they're lives suck cuz they're losers (or parents are, but that's just called over protective) :c
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towr
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Apr 6 2011, 10:01 PM
I didn't find it funny in the least bit
A tragedy isn't typically supposed to be.

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It was just about a bunch of kids who did things without thinking of their consequences
So, basically kids doing what kids do best then.

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And parents who had bad ideals for their children
Not that unusual either, unfortunately.

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(such as fighting for a reason long lost)
From a modern point of view family feuds may not make much sense, but it's been common throughout history (and still is in some cultures). And really, all it takes is a perpetuating cycle of violence to keep it alive. If there wasn't a state-monopoly on violence in modern society it would probably still be common place.
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Apr 6 2011, 08:47 PM
but Romeo and Juliet I liked better in 30 seconds
Most stories are funnier when abbreviated to 30 seconds. Youtube has a whole host of them. And you can usually think of different ways a story could have ended if the characters had thought things through better.

http://www.youtube.com/show/hishe?s=1 has a few funny alternative endings for a number movies.
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A tragedy isn't typically supposed to be.

Unless you're Shakespeare, in which case his tragedies are way funnier than most of his comedies.

"Where is Polonius?"
"He is at dinner."
"At dinner?!"
"Aye - not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are e'en at him."
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Ahh, sorry I'm so late with this :sweatdrop: . Thank you everyone for your birthday wishes. :$

:heart: Elly, I love your picture :heart: ! 'Tis so pretty. :heart: And the song too. :heart:

I like Shakespeare- Twelfth Night and The Tempest being my favorites. I liked A Midsummer Night's Dream, Romeo and Juliet, and Julius Ceasar, though, too. I haven't read all that many, though (currently reading Antony and Cleopatra, then Othello, then Macbeth).

...I'm the only person I know who read Shakespeare for 'light' reading.
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Snofox Kari
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:lol: well, i guess if you look at it from the point of view that it's all in play script format rather than prose, i suppose it could be called light
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