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Okay, seriously....
Topic Started: Mar 14 2010, 04:52 AM (3,206 Views)
Jack
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The problem I have with that is that it directly contradicts the Bible...which is the Word of God, and therefore it contradicts God Himself.

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Because we're trying to avoid arguement, I'm going to leave that one alone. We use the same Bible as everyone else, and it's only by using both I can best understand what either one is saying.
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the bible is the word written by man who interpreted it and we need to re-interrpret it from the original language into our own which is still a bit hazy needind re-re-intterpretation :rolleyes:

man wrote it...not God...He wouldn't contradict himself :lol:
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All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
So in other words, no...it was written by God through man. There's a difference.
Edited by Jack, Mar 24 2010, 02:27 AM.
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and man used his head and put the pen to the parer after hearing His word...you can make up whatever interpretation you wish but there is one truth and that is that Timothy was the one who wrote that he wrote for God...and so if i say that i wrote what was lectured in class, you cant say that the teacher wrote my notes...it was i who put the teacer's words on the parer and i may have missed something or missinterpreted and rephrased it (same for the translation of the original text)
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No, because again that's taking away from the words of the Bible (reference Revelation 22). God said that His Word was perfect. Because His Word is Jesus - thus, the Bible and Jesus are, essentially, one and the same. Implying that the Bible is not perfect is implying that God is not perfect.
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again you are quoting what was written by man's hand...may be God's word...but it was man who took up the writting utensil to the page :rolleyes:
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Alright, Kari - then why believe it if it was written by man instead of God?

No, it is direct from God - as stated by God Himself, as well as Jesus (who happens to be God's Word, see John 1). The only thing that would make any sense at all would be to say that God had to speak to us in our language - baby talk to babies, as it were - so that we can understand Him. That would be the one and only difficulty in reading God's Word.
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It was Holy Ghost written!
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...

Thank you. I believe I was saying that all along.
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Yeah, but I couldn't resist the left-wide-open-awful joke. :D
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OK Jason... which Bible?

I should clarify: I use the KJV, but the quotation you made is not from there.
Edited by TheDeepDark, Mar 25 2010, 02:33 AM.
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Which quotation, specifically?

I use ESV/NKJV. NIV on rare occasion.
Edited by Jack, Mar 25 2010, 03:20 AM.
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i just use the one that says "holy bible" :lol:
but that brings up a good point which adds to what i had been saying...there are so many versions even of the same text that you can't be sure to make exact quotes because they have all been written and rewritten
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No, that's not true. There are different versions because each version is using a different wording - that either makes it easier to understand, or is closest to the original text. So yes, you can - ESV, KJV, NKJV, and NASB are all close enough to the original text to be considered verbatim.

I suggest looking up R.C. Sproul and Peter Kreeft, and reading what they have to say about the inerrancy of Scripture, before continuing. :)
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