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Topic Started: May 28 2010, 01:19 PM (2,062 Views)
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Although I doubt throwing explosives at it willy-nilly will do much good, and it could easily make it worse. It's not a suggestion I had heard of before, but then I haven't followed it very closely.
It took forever, but recently a plan to use explosives in a manner that could fix it has been brought forth, and (I haven't followed it too closely either since it just makes me chew my sleeve) apparently we want to send some sort of sub to go prodding about and the explosives are being nixed.
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And of course on the one hand, you'd have this problem regardless of which political figurehead is in office, because they simply refuse to prepare for decisive action in case of emergency.
Yeah, that is true. But the figurehead always gets the heat, so that's Mr. Obama, and he's making fail atm.
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I did hear some comments in our media from some companies that specialize in cleaning up messes like oil spills that they were wondering why they hadn't been asked for help.
We apparently didn't see fit to accept it for a while. For some odd reason we have issues getting help. Something similar happened for Hurricane Katrina, too. Though it is also apparent that now we are accepting help, as a really good article explains in few words, so I guess that's a step forward.

But I did get pitched into a pool because while other people my age are going on about animals I'm going on about the oil. "The environment! The animals!" "THE OIL!" :lol: They really make it too easy to bug them.
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I have a lot of dirt on him the don't say on CNN and the like.
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Yeah, but is it true? Because there is a lot of ludicrous nonsense being spouted about him out there, from people that hate him first and make up shit to justify it second. (Not that that is any way an uncommon order of operation for humans; justification usually tends to get second place in decision making and judgment.) And then, of course, there's people that happily and gullibly repeat everything, leading to people that believe it because so many people are repeating it. Etc. Etc.

The point is, though, you always have to ask yourself, "is it true?" Especially when things very conveniently confirm preexisting biases (because that's when we are least critical of new (dis)information). So, for example, you could consider whether it might not be possible that CNN isn't reporting these things because their reporters make a token effort to check the facts?
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I don't just mean stupid conspiracy theories like 'OBAMA IS MUSLIM' or 'HES AN ALIEN'. I don't see what he's doing enough for our Nation. Healthcare my ass, now my Dad just has to pay money for something we didn't need. He's for Abortion and Pro Same Sex marriage. He's basically shunned Israel, who's been out ally for years, and then points the blame at them. He's trying to settle peace agreements between them and Islam(who will break it, which has been done before) that only give them land into Israel, and when they try to build houses in their land, they get yelled at. And why? You don't ever see this on TV. Who's side is he taking while we have a war erupting at the Gaza Strip again? All I hear from him are weak speeches about the Oil Spill.
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Healthcare my ass, now my Dad just has to pay money for something we didn't need.
So your family is immune to all diseases and accidents? Wow, awesome. Congratulations.
Sure, there are some valid arguments to be made against forced insurance; but that it won't happen to you is not one of them. Of course perhaps you're part of a community that would bail you out if the worst happen and one of your family got sick/hurt and you ended up with a medical bill running in the tens or hundreds of thousands; in that case I'd agree you really don't need such (forced) insurance. But many people don't, and they take their chances, leading the unlucky ones, and their families, to financial ruin.

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He's for Abortion and Pro Same Sex marriage.
Even if he is (which I doubt he'd say or admit), he wouldn't act strongly on it, because it would hurt his chances of reelection. He is, after all, a politician.

Although I never quite understand what it is with people's obsession with other people's love life. It is not the government's business. Marriage should simply be banned as a civil institution and left instead to the community; that way each religious (and other) community can define for themselves (and their group alone) what constitutes a marriage. And as a bonus people can spend their live accruing the sanction for their union of every church and special interest group they run across; it'd be a bit like pokemon: "collect them all".

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He's basically shunned Israel, who's been out ally for years, and then points the blame at them.
An old Dutch proverb goes, "where two fight two have blame". Israel and Palestinians are both being dicks and should cut it out.
And if you actually look into it, Israel does some pretty not-so-nice things which the US shouldn't turn a blind eye to. Bulldozing innocent people's home as retaliation for what someone else has done is not proper state behaviour, to name one example. I realize Israel is at a disadvantage here because they're fighting a terrorist organization, which makes it very difficult to find the actual culprits. However, one has to hold states to higher standards; using state terrorism to try and counter Hamas terrorism can not be tolerated. Besides which it is not only ineffective but actually counterproductive.

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He's trying to settle peace agreements between them and Islam
A significant proportion of Palestinians is CHRISTIAN. Something like 30% of Palestinians worldwide, in fact. It is not Israel vs Islam, it's Israel vs Palestinians.
But I guess they don't show that in the news either.

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that only give them land into Israel, and when they try to build houses in their land, they get yelled at.
I don't really understand this part. Do the Palestinians get land, and the Israeli build houses and get yelled at?
The problem, of course, is that the Palestinians feel entitled to the land of their forebears (as do the Israeli for that matter, but the Palestinian forebears where there more recently). Another problem is that despite promises Israel continues to build settlements in the Palestinian territories that they have occupied, and which aren't formally a part of Israeli territory (they're breaking international law here, as I understand it, and have been doing so for a very long time). Understandably Palestinians don't like that any more than you would like your neighbour to annex your backyard to build a shed.
On the other hand, it's partly their own fault; among other reasons, for having fled Israeli territory when the state was formed (even though they didn't have to), in the hope Israel would quickly be wiped off the map by its hostile neighbours and they could go back.

In any case, the situation is a little more complex than "Jews good, Moslims bad".

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Who's side is he taking while we have a war erupting at the Gaza Strip again?
I'd hope he'd take the side of the victims on both sides, as well as against the aggressors on both sides. By and large the Palestinian and Israeli people are both victims; neither of them wants to live with the constant threat of violence (because they're not insane). Resolving the issue in a way tolerable to both sides would leave everyone better off.

Also, is there a war erupting there again? I haven't seen in the news... Actually, considering the blockade-kerfuffle recently, and the fact Israel has mostly lifted it even more recently, I doubt there is war erupting there unless that has been a new development in the last few days and I somehow missed it.
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Poo. I leave the forums and look what I miss! You folks still drawing? I got a few ideas.
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....drawing? Is that what we were talking about here before.....the discussion?

........*checks topic*..........

Wow, that was really far back.
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*nods nods*
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Personal Daily Hypothesis - Entry 6/14/'10:
Babies who are both named and spoken to regularly by family members while yet unborn in the womb are, as infants, not only more responsive to their own name but also to the members who have spoken to them all this unborn time than those who are named at birth.


...Welp, I have no means to conduct the research. But I think I'm right. Partly because the kittens we have had over the years have been privy to my naming experiments and while they weren't tested in the womb, obviously, the backward conclusion that leaving them unnamed until they were out of kittenhood resulted in their not responding to anything other than "kitten" occasionally. And partly because it just makes sense to me. What do you kids think? I couldn't find any previous studies.
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There are some studies on whether unborn babies can recognize certain sounds, and those are somewhat positive for the last weeks/months.
See e.g. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19132-bumpology-what-you-can-teach-a-fetus.html
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