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Creationism vs Evolutionism?
Topic Started: May 17 2016, 06:26 PM (38 Views)
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Which side do you stand on? Or are you somewhere in the middle? What are your beliefs?
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I'm a bit in the middle. I completely believe in science, but I try to believe in God some-what..
When I say I "try" it's because I want to have something to believe in when times get rough.
Also, I refuse to believe that when we die nothing happens. That's so depressing..
The Universe is too complex and big to just die. I hate this topic. Now I'm depressed :/
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May 18 2016, 06:43 AM
I'm a bit in the middle. I completely believe in science, but I try to believe in God some-what..
When I say I "try" it's because I want to have something to believe in when times get rough.
Also, I refuse to believe that when we die nothing happens. That's so depressing..
The Universe is too complex and big to just die. I hate this topic. Now I'm depressed :/
That appears to be the core issue with religion in general. People that aren't truly believing, and are instead using it merely as a crutch for when they feel weak or frightened. But in doing so, they only empower the movements that take action against good people who simply do not believe.

OT: Creationism typically reads like something from a fantasy novel. That is, depending on which story you're listening to. The Christian God creating the planet? The Sumerian gods An, Enki, Enlil, and Ninhursanga giving life to the black-headed people and the land in which they lived? The evolution of the Takamagahara, which brought about the birth of the planet, subsequently bringing the married sibling gods Izanagi and Izanami, who created the Japanese archipelago?

Far too many stories, with too many differing points. It's impossible to choose one as correct, so I'm going with none.
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May 18 2016, 03:12 PM
Fathis Crowe
May 18 2016, 06:43 AM
I'm a bit in the middle. I completely believe in science, but I try to believe in God some-what..
When I say I "try" it's because I want to have something to believe in when times get rough.
Also, I refuse to believe that when we die nothing happens. That's so depressing..
The Universe is too complex and big to just die. I hate this topic. Now I'm depressed :/
That appears to be the core issue with religion in general. People that aren't truly believing, and are instead using it merely as a crutch for when they feel weak or frightened. But in doing so, they only empower the movements that take action against good people who simply do not believe.

OT: Creationism typically reads like something from a fantasy novel. That is, depending on which story you're listening to. The Christian God creating the planet? The Sumerian gods An, Enki, Enlil, and Ninhursanga giving life to the black-headed people and the land in which they lived? The evolution of the Takamagahara, which brought about the birth of the planet, subsequently bringing the married sibling gods Izanagi and Izanami, who created the Japanese archipelago?

Far too many stories, with too many differing points. It's impossible to choose one as correct, so I'm going with none.


My best reason and example as to why I believe the way I do.. Now I know I didn't live through the Holocaust, but what if I did? What if everyone I know and loved had died right in front of me, lined up and shot down. How would you cope and get through an atrocity like that?
Religion can be used to get through the hardest of times, the worst of times. I also don't want to believe that after we die, that's it, we're nothing but a whole in the ground.. Life's too hard and short not to believe in something even if you can't explain it.
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Ned Stark
May 18 2016, 03:58 PM
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May 18 2016, 03:12 PM
Fathis Crowe
May 18 2016, 06:43 AM
I'm a bit in the middle. I completely believe in science, but I try to believe in God some-what..
When I say I "try" it's because I want to have something to believe in when times get rough.
Also, I refuse to believe that when we die nothing happens. That's so depressing..
The Universe is too complex and big to just die. I hate this topic. Now I'm depressed :/
That appears to be the core issue with religion in general. People that aren't truly believing, and are instead using it merely as a crutch for when they feel weak or frightened. But in doing so, they only empower the movements that take action against good people who simply do not believe.

OT: Creationism typically reads like something from a fantasy novel. That is, depending on which story you're listening to. The Christian God creating the planet? The Sumerian gods An, Enki, Enlil, and Ninhursanga giving life to the black-headed people and the land in which they lived? The evolution of the Takamagahara, which brought about the birth of the planet, subsequently bringing the married sibling gods Izanagi and Izanami, who created the Japanese archipelago?

Far too many stories, with too many differing points. It's impossible to choose one as correct, so I'm going with none.


My best reason and example as to why I believe the way I do.. Now I know I didn't live through the Holocaust, but what if I did? What if everyone I know and loved had died right in front of me, lined up and shot down. How would you cope and get through an atrocity like that?
Religion can be used to get through the hardest of times, the worst of times. I also don't want to believe that after we die, that's it, we're nothing but a whole in the ground.. Life's too hard and short not to believe in something even if you can't explain it.
That effectively embodies the issue I outlined already. I do not know how I would survive in a Holocaust-like event, but I do not feel that paying lip service to a deity merely because the darkness scares me is the way to go. And I absolutely will not bend knee to a deity which allows things like the Holocaust to happen.

There is a phrase that is commonly used in conjunction with things like that. 'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.'

I believe this goes doubly for a creator deity who purports to love its creations. To allow the hatred, terror, and barbarity this world is founded upon to go unchecked?

I can't bring myself to accept such a foul being.
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