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Noah's Reaction To Dusty's Murder?
Topic Started: Jan 18 2008, 01:34 AM (564 Views)
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Jan 20 2008, 12:52 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 06:46 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:33 AM
of course realizing Noah has been abused helps understand what motivates him. I can understand that.

And I know what abuse is, I've lived it myself.

In this conversation the reason I brought up Noah's faults is because people love to put labels on Luke i.e he's pushy, bossy, controlling or whatever and not once do you or anyone else put such labels on Noah. All I hear is he's trying to figure out who he is....I don't hear people labeling Noah as a liar or whatever.

I just feel it's unfair to label Luke because he has reasons why he's the way he is. He has had shit happen to him too.  That's been my whole point.

Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I have made many references in my posts here and on vh and on cbs that Noah is not a saint. Jesus, I said like 3 posts ago in here that Noah is a liar and a manipulator. I've also said on numerous times that he needs to grow some ballz. I haven't justified any of his actions as a "growing experience." But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

Luke is pushy and bossy and controlling. But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

It's something that they both have to work on.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I *said* the reasons why *I* even started this conversation is because that's what was taking place in this thread.

I'm not going to go back and read every freaking post but Luke gets labeled a lot more than Noah and it does piss me off.

I think they are both f ups.

I still don't think Noah made any huge sacrifices to stand by Luke. He gained a family so...

I'm tired , who the hell cares anymore.

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You said that I never labeled Noah as a liar! Okay, technically, I guess that would be taking words out of my mouth, not in. <_<

And Luke gets labeled more b/c he's the one we know more! He's been on a lot longer than Noah. Noah hasn't really done much to get a whole lot of labels (except whipped).

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What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!
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Jan 20 2008, 12:52 AM
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bubbles
Jan 20 2008, 12:33 AM
of course realizing Noah has been abused helps understand what motivates him. I can understand that.

And I know what abuse is, I've lived it myself.

In this conversation the reason I brought up Noah's faults is because people love to put labels on Luke i.e he's pushy, bossy, controlling or whatever and not once do you or anyone else put such labels on Noah. All I hear is he's trying to figure out who he is....I don't hear people labeling Noah as a liar or whatever.

I just feel it's unfair to label Luke because he has reasons why he's the way he is. He has had shit happen to him too.  That's been my whole point.

Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I have made many references in my posts here and on vh and on cbs that Noah is not a saint. Jesus, I said like 3 posts ago in here that Noah is a liar and a manipulator. I've also said on numerous times that he needs to grow some ballz. I haven't justified any of his actions as a "growing experience." But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

Luke is pushy and bossy and controlling. But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

It's something that they both have to work on.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I *said* the reasons why *I* even started this conversation is because that's what was taking place in this thread.

I'm not going to go back and read every freaking post but Luke gets labeled a lot more than Noah and it does piss me off.

I think they are both f ups.

I still don't think Noah made any huge sacrifices to stand by Luke. He gained a family so...

I'm tired , who the hell cares anymore.

:song: why do I love this little emoticon LOL!

Holy Christ! I was getting ready to ask you the same damned question!

Is that like your "talk to the hand" thing? LOL

Or "shut the fuck up, I can't hear you no more!" LOL
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Jan 20 2008, 06:57 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:52 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 06:46 AM
bubbles
Jan 20 2008, 12:33 AM
of course realizing Noah has been abused helps understand what motivates him. I can understand that.

And I know what abuse is, I've lived it myself.

In this conversation the reason I brought up Noah's faults is because people love to put labels on Luke i.e he's pushy, bossy, controlling or whatever and not once do you or anyone else put such labels on Noah. All I hear is he's trying to figure out who he is....I don't hear people labeling Noah as a liar or whatever.

I just feel it's unfair to label Luke because he has reasons why he's the way he is. He has had shit happen to him too.  That's been my whole point.

Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I have made many references in my posts here and on vh and on cbs that Noah is not a saint. Jesus, I said like 3 posts ago in here that Noah is a liar and a manipulator. I've also said on numerous times that he needs to grow some ballz. I haven't justified any of his actions as a "growing experience." But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

Luke is pushy and bossy and controlling. But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

It's something that they both have to work on.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I *said* the reasons why *I* even started this conversation is because that's what was taking place in this thread.

I'm not going to go back and read every freaking post but Luke gets labeled a lot more than Noah and it does piss me off.

I think they are both f ups.

I still don't think Noah made any huge sacrifices to stand by Luke. He gained a family so...

I'm tired , who the hell cares anymore.

:song: why do I love this little emoticon LOL!

Holy Christ! I was getting ready to ask you the same damned question!

Is that like your "talk to the hand" thing? LOL

Or "shut the fuck up, I can't hear you no more!" LOL

haha! Yeah, it's my talk to the hand, I play the guitar when I'm frustrated so it's perfect for me.
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.
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of course realizing Noah has been abused helps understand what motivates him. I can understand that.

And I know what abuse is, I've lived it myself.

In this conversation the reason I brought up Noah's faults is because people love to put labels on Luke i.e he's pushy, bossy, controlling or whatever and not once do you or anyone else put such labels on Noah. All I hear is he's trying to figure out who he is....I don't hear people labeling Noah as a liar or whatever.

I just feel it's unfair to label Luke because he has reasons why he's the way he is. He has had shit happen to him too.  That's been my whole point.

Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I have made many references in my posts here and on vh and on cbs that Noah is not a saint. Jesus, I said like 3 posts ago in here that Noah is a liar and a manipulator. I've also said on numerous times that he needs to grow some ballz. I haven't justified any of his actions as a "growing experience." But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

Luke is pushy and bossy and controlling. But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

It's something that they both have to work on.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I *said* the reasons why *I* even started this conversation is because that's what was taking place in this thread.

I'm not going to go back and read every freaking post but Luke gets labeled a lot more than Noah and it does piss me off.

I think they are both f ups.

I still don't think Noah made any huge sacrifices to stand by Luke. He gained a family so...

I'm tired , who the hell cares anymore.

:song:

You said that I never labeled Noah as a liar! Okay, technically, I guess that would be taking words out of my mouth, not in. <_<

And Luke gets labeled more b/c he's the one we know more! He's been on a lot longer than Noah. Noah hasn't really done much to get a whole lot of labels (except whipped).

Ok, you called Noah a liar *after* I pried it out of you :P

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Jan 20 2008, 06:57 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:52 AM
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bubbles
Jan 20 2008, 12:33 AM
of course realizing Noah has been abused helps understand what motivates him. I can understand that.

And I know what abuse is, I've lived it myself.

In this conversation the reason I brought up Noah's faults is because people love to put labels on Luke i.e he's pushy, bossy, controlling or whatever and not once do you or anyone else put such labels on Noah. All I hear is he's trying to figure out who he is....I don't hear people labeling Noah as a liar or whatever.

I just feel it's unfair to label Luke because he has reasons why he's the way he is. He has had shit happen to him too.  That's been my whole point.

Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I have made many references in my posts here and on vh and on cbs that Noah is not a saint. Jesus, I said like 3 posts ago in here that Noah is a liar and a manipulator. I've also said on numerous times that he needs to grow some ballz. I haven't justified any of his actions as a "growing experience." But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

Luke is pushy and bossy and controlling. But he's changing, which is what I hope most human beings do.

It's something that they both have to work on.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I *said* the reasons why *I* even started this conversation is because that's what was taking place in this thread.

I'm not going to go back and read every freaking post but Luke gets labeled a lot more than Noah and it does piss me off.

I think they are both f ups.

I still don't think Noah made any huge sacrifices to stand by Luke. He gained a family so...

I'm tired , who the hell cares anymore.

:song: why do I love this little emoticon LOL!

Holy Christ! I was getting ready to ask you the same damned question!

Is that like your "talk to the hand" thing? LOL

Or "shut the fuck up, I can't hear you no more!" LOL

haha! Yeah, it's my talk to the hand, I play the guitar when I'm frustrated so it's perfect for me.

I didn't know you played the guitar.

I used to play the tuba and my grandma's double stack organ! :D Somehow, that doesn't sound as cool as the guitar.
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Jan 20 2008, 07:01 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

see the truth comes out. After all that long drawn out shit about Poor Noah. You only like his ass because you think he's hot. I knew it! :P

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Jan 20 2008, 01:02 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

see the truth comes out. After all that long drawn out shit about Poor Noah. You only like his ass because you think he's hot. I knew it! :P

:song:

But I think Van's hot too!!!

I literally laughed out loud. My cats are looking @ me like I'm crazy!! :D

:kill: :song:
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Jan 20 2008, 03:01 PM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

Hey, my post was not directed at you at all. It's just an impression I got from those who defended Noah's actions. Basically, what I felt is both Kevin and Noah were cruel to Luke, it's just that the show didn't persist with Kevin's story, if Kevin was given the chance Noah had, he could be redeemable, too.

But, you are right! I agree the difference is mainly due to the look, hence the different treatment!
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Jan 20 2008, 01:06 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

Hey, my post was not directed at you at all. It's just an impression I got from those who defended Noah's actions. Basically, what I felt is both Kevin and Noah were cruel to Luke, it's just that the show didn't persist with Kevin's story, if Kevin was given the chance Noah had, he could be redeemable, too.

But, you are right! I agree the difference is mainly due to the look, hence the different treatment!

Yeah, I think the cruelty was different but both certainly messed with his head.
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Jan 20 2008, 07:04 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 01:02 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

see the truth comes out. After all that long drawn out shit about Poor Noah. You only like his ass because you think he's hot. I knew it! :P

:song:

But I think Van's hot too!!!

I literally laughed out loud. My cats are looking @ me like I'm crazy!! :D

:kill: :song:

hahahaha! I'm dying here. My husband was like what's so damn funny.


But yeah, I taught myself how to play the guitar. I play the Acoustic Guitar. I like to sing and play to my kids. I played the drums growing up though. I was even in the marching band.
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Jan 20 2008, 01:12 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 07:01 AM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:56 AM
What I don't understand is why people are willing to cut Noah so much slack but not Kevin, they both have difficult lives growing up!

Because Kevin is ugly?? :bugout:

Seriously, I don't think I've ever said much about Kevin b/c I don't really know his character all that well. I only watched ATWT intermittently when he was on b/c I was in my ABC phase.

I just don't like him cause he's not hot to me.

see the truth comes out. After all that long drawn out shit about Poor Noah. You only like his ass because you think he's hot. I knew it! :P

:song:

But I think Van's hot too!!!

I literally laughed out loud. My cats are looking @ me like I'm crazy!! :D

:kill: :song:

hahahaha! I'm dying here. My husband was like what's so damn funny.


But yeah, I taught myself how to play the guitar. I play the Acoustic Guitar. I like to sing and play to my kids. I played the drums growing up though. I was even in the marching band.

I too was in the marching band...I played tuba, 1st chair, all-state.

I was also in honor's choir, alto, all-state.

OH MY GOD!!! bubbles, you are my hetero life partner. :love:

Well, you and greyhound. You'll have to take turns. :)
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Band geeks unite. LOL! My sister who you are going to meet played the clarinet.

this thread just turned all crazy. hahaha!
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Jan 20 2008, 01:22 AM
Band geeks unite. LOL! My sister who you are going to meet played the clarinet.

this thread just turned all crazy. hahaha!

I may have to try and find a band photo to bring with me. I have to say that I looked :fire: in my orange and black w/ silver uniform (it sounds gayer than it really was....we looked fierce!!).

People prolly think you and I are bat shit crazy. Ripping each other to threads and then I'm talking about you as my hetero life partner!! :o
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