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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 20 2008, 10:24 PM (191 Views) | |
| AnthonyL | Jan 20 2008, 10:24 PM Post #1 |
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On other boards, folks are saying Luke is self-righteous for being so hard on Lily and making comments about her drug use. Was he? I mean, he felt guilty about his treatment of his mother before. But should he? Or was he just being honest with her about her bad behavior? |
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| CodeNuke | Jan 20 2008, 10:29 PM Post #2 |
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this is hard for me. i see Luke wanting his mom to straighten up her act bec he loves her so much and he does not went his siblings to see her that way. He went to help the family and he useing tought love. |
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| Longtime | Jan 20 2008, 10:31 PM Post #3 |
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I think this all may stem from a single line of dialogue in Friday's (1/18) show, when Luke told Holden on the phone "How many more times are we going to have to explain Mom?" or something like that. Luke was only being an adult and thinking of the affect this would have on Faith and Natalie. Luke was not out of line, any more than Holden was when he called Lily down for going off on Bonnie in front of Faith and Natalie. That was bad enough, but not anywhere near popping pills, again. What if Lily had been high on pills, and then got behind the wheel of a car with Faith and Natalie with her? The pill thing is very serious, even more so if there are children's lives in the family circle with you. I didn't see anyone calling Holden down for his treatment of Lily, so I don't understand how Luke's view about her drug thing is out of line. |
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| bubbles | Jan 20 2008, 10:31 PM Post #4 |
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I definitely think Luke took Holden's side without knowing all the facts and it did piss me off. I did NOT like the way he talked to his mother about HER private life. And when he yelled at Lily in front of Dusty/Noah, I wanted to slap him. I didn't like his comment on the phone to Holden either. He does act self righteous. Like he hasn't done anything wrong , I mean hello Luke got a DUI before. |
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| AnthonyL | Jan 20 2008, 10:49 PM Post #5 |
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Lily has been out of control for months. Luke has every reason to believe she's acting out once again (and he would be right). And there is a HUGE difference between getting a DUI and having an ongoing drug problem and nearly killing yourself. I don't think Luke was out of line at all given what Lily has put the family through. The family wouldn't be broken up now if it weren't for her. And I don't think Luke was so unhappy about Lily doing Dusty more than her lying about it, which is what he said. It's the lying that always gets her in trouble. And she never learned that. |
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| bubbles | Jan 20 2008, 11:50 PM Post #6 |
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But how would Luke feel if his parents didn't want him with Noah because of all of Noah's lying? Luke can't judge Lily when he's involved with a man that has hurt many. And Luke wouldn't even have a boyfriend if Lily didn't intervene. I'm sorry but Luke has a right to be pissed but he's still the child so he shouldn't be talking about his mother like that. |
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| AnthonyL | Jan 21 2008, 12:01 AM Post #7 |
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But.... Luke wasn't involved with someone else or ruined a relationship to be with Noah. Sure Maddie and Noah split, but Luke had nothing to do with that. Lily chose Dusty over her family. It was never like that with Luke and Noah. Yes, Lily got Luke and Noah together..... but that has nothing to do with Lily's drug use or how it hurt the family, which is the issue. In regards to how Luke speaks to his parents, that's simply the type of relationship they have. Luke has always spoken his mind, even to them. And apparently, they're cool with it given the bond they have. But the entire family is like that: frank and honest about how they feel about how the other is behaving. And these parents need to know how they are hurting the family by the people they are hurting the most. You're right, Luke had the right to be angry... he also had the right to call her out on it too. She lied to his FACE. He's not a child (though Lily is so obvious even the kids knew what she was doing) he's pretty much an adult himself. All he asked was that she be honest.... and she couldn't be. She owed him that much. |
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| bubbles | Jan 21 2008, 12:04 AM Post #8 |
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Anthony, i get what you are saying but I still think Luke is out of line. He finds out his MOTHER is in the hospital and he bad mouths her. Holden didn't help matters but I thought it was a bit much myself. Lily lied to her husband about Dusty. Luke kept Noah's secret because of his feelings for him. So Luke should have understand that not everything is all black and white. And Lily is an adult she doesn't *owe* Luke anything. |
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| Longtime | Jan 21 2008, 12:09 AM Post #9 |
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My main reason for thinking Luke is justified is because the situation is a parent, who has custody of minor children, is obtaining illegal drugs, using them to the point to where she has lapses in cognitive thought, and potentially putting the children at riski f it happens while they are in her care. Not to mention her own life. If one of my parents were abusing drugs around siblings to the point that they passed out in the hospital and had to have their stomach pumped, nothing I say, or do, to try to stop it would be uncalled for, to me. I'd much rather be called disrespectful or out of line than I would rather be going to a family funeral knowing my speaking up could have prevented it. As always, just my opinion though..... |
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| Longtime | Jan 21 2008, 12:10 AM Post #10 |
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To me, Lily owes all her children the responsibility of not obtaining black market drugs and then using them. |
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| AnthonyL | Jan 21 2008, 12:11 AM Post #11 |
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I don't think Luke so much badmouthed her as wondered when the misery was going to end regarding her. I think his reaction was normal and natural given what she has put the family through. Lily may be an adult, but so is Luke. She should have told him the truth. He might have been upset, but he would've respected her and not cut her out his life. As always, she brought that on herself. |
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| AnthonyL | Jan 21 2008, 12:11 AM Post #12 |
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Wow, I didn't think of it like that, but your insight is amazing. Great points. |
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| Longtime | Jan 21 2008, 12:17 AM Post #13 |
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Except I screwed up something in the original version of the post, and edited it - take out the words "failure to speak up" and put in place of 'em "speaking up." I pretty much said the extreme opposite of what I meant. Duh. |
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| bubbles | Jan 21 2008, 12:18 AM Post #14 |
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Well, of course. But since when are soap parents good ones? I just think people are going overboard with Lily's actions. She screwed up no doubt but Holden/Luke act self righteous about it. Even Luke himself admitted he's been a JERK to his mother and that says it all to me. |
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| Longtime | Jan 21 2008, 12:19 AM Post #15 |
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Now there's a good point, if soap parents were good ones who would watch? :-) |
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