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Topic Started: Jan 29 2008, 11:44 PM (901 Views)
AnthonyL
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You have a point. People probably wouldn't like Luke and Noah doing that for any reason..... which is why I said it has to be a really, really good one. I guess I'm just speculating..... because even though we know more than a lot of people, there's so much we DON'T know. And it's driving me crazy.
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Yeah, I don't have faith in the show that the reason they come up with will be good enough to most people. It's driving me crazy not knowing much about the storyline too.
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The more i think about it, i wouldn't have a problem with them hiding their gayness or whatever. I've decided to really give it a chance and I know if this story can win me over , I can start convincing my friends on the main boards.
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AnthonyL
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bubbles
Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM
The more i think about it, i wouldn't have a problem with them hiding their gayness or whatever. I've decided to really give it a chance and I know if this story can win me over , I can start convincing my friends on the main boards.

See, that's my thing. If it's for a good reason, like finding out what this bad girl is up to, especially if she's caused a lot of problems, I don't have an issue with it. It's not like they are hiding it because of shame or whatever or denying who they are, they're trying to get the truth out of this wicked girl. And people on soaps lie all the time, usually for selfish reasons. This is not selfish.
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Bubbles, I don't think I would have much of a problem either. I plan to see whole story through. I'm more trying to put myself in people's shoes who are "on the edge" and could be easily enjoy the story or be turned off rather quickly.
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Well, I think a lot of people are indifferent like I am and I'm willing to bet they will jump on board as long as we know the boys love each other.

But I do think if Luke kisses her that might be problem.
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Jan 31 2008, 12:44 AM
bubbles
Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM
The more i think about it, i wouldn't have a problem with them hiding their gayness or whatever. I've decided to really give it a chance and I know if this story can win me over , I can start convincing my friends on the main boards.

See, that's my thing. If it's for a good reason, like finding out what this bad girl is up to, especially if she's caused a lot of problems, I don't have an issue with it. It's not like they are hiding it because of shame or whatever or denying who they are, they're trying to get the truth out of this wicked girl. And people on soaps lie all the time, usually for selfish reasons. This is not selfish.

I don't think most viewers will see that difference in why they are hiding. I just think they will see Noah hiding he's gay and then tune out. I'm usually an optimist, but I on this part of the storyline, I'm little more critical because I just think it's a bad idea for Noah to hide he's gay, even if that puts him in harms way.
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Jan 31 2008, 12:49 AM
Well, I think a lot of people are indifferent like I am and I'm willing to bet they will jump on board as long as we know the boys love each other.

But I do think if Luke kisses her that might be problem.

So looks like I may be the more pessimistic one now. :P
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Jan 31 2008, 01:00 AM
bubbles
Jan 31 2008, 12:49 AM
Well, I think a lot of people are indifferent like I am and I'm willing to bet they will jump on board as long as we know the boys love each other.

But I do think if Luke kisses her that might be problem.

So looks like I may be the more pessimistic one now. :P

I agree that kissing her might be the problem. He'd need to avoid that. Unless he's kissing Noah more often, which he will be, on screen. Then it might not be that big of a deal.
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I think the keys are that no matter what events play out, (1) Noah's orientation issues had better be above question in the audience's mind, and (2) if Noah does anything with the potential to hurt Luke, it had better be made perfectly clear to the audience that he had no choice. Somehow, that he had no choice. If Noah is seen having any doubts whatsoever about his faith in Luke's feelings for him (in other words if Noah is just simply afraid to confide completely in Luke out of insecurity about them as a couple), there's gonna be trouble. If Noah deceives Luke over Ameera, it better be because the White House will blow up, Ethan will be murdered, Winston will be let out of jail and given a machine gun, and JP is coming back as head writer, all at once, if he doesn't do so. Really, for the character's sake, Noah needs to be made the hero for awhile I think, and they need to take great pains to make SURE this story leaves Noah looking like a saint from the starting gate.
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I want to see this play out. they need to have Luke and Noah talk it out about Ameera, the wirters need to be careful about upseting the Luke and Noah fan base. and help the one that are on the fance about noah so they can keep them FB as long as they can.

I would hate if this story fails for our boys. who knows what type of storyline they would get next time. fans need to let this play out. the next one could be a bb one if there bakelash from fans.
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Jan 31 2008, 06:17 AM
I think the keys are that no matter what events play out, (1) Noah's orientation issues had better be above question in the audience's mind, and (2) if Noah does anything with the potential to hurt Luke, it had better be made perfectly clear to the audience that he had no choice. Somehow, that he had no choice. If Noah is seen having any doubts whatsoever about his faith in Luke's feelings for him (in other words if Noah is just simply afraid to confide completely in Luke out of insecurity about them as a couple), there's gonna be trouble. If Noah deceives Luke over Ameera, it better be because the White House will blow up, Ethan will be murdered, Winston will be let out of jail and given a machine gun, and JP is coming back as head writer, all at once, if he doesn't do so. Really, for the character's sake, Noah needs to be made the hero for awhile I think, and they need to take great pains to make SURE this story leaves Noah looking like a saint from the starting gate.

I completely agree, longtime. And bubbles, I have to disagree with you about Luke kissing Ameera; unlike with Noah, who always seems to me to be on the verge of changing teams again, Luke kissing a girl would just make me laugh.

And I'm actually not too concerned about Noah hiding his orientation from Ameera as long as he's not hiding it from the audience.
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Jan 31 2008, 09:05 AM
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Jan 31 2008, 06:17 AM
I think the keys are that no matter what events play out, (1) Noah's orientation issues had better be above question in the audience's mind, and (2) if Noah does anything with the potential to hurt Luke, it had better be made perfectly clear to the audience that he had no choice.  Somehow, that he had no choice.  If Noah is seen having any doubts whatsoever about his faith in Luke's feelings for him (in other words if Noah is just simply afraid to confide completely in Luke out of insecurity about them as a couple), there's gonna be trouble.  If Noah deceives Luke over Ameera, it better be because the White House will blow up, Ethan will be murdered, Winston will be let out of jail and given a machine gun, and JP is coming back as head writer, all at once, if he doesn't do so.  Really, for the character's sake, Noah needs to be made the hero for awhile I think, and they need to take great pains to make SURE this story leaves Noah looking like a saint from the starting gate.

I completely agree, longtime. And bubbles, I have to disagree with you about Luke kissing Ameera; unlike with Noah, who always seems to me to be on the verge of changing teams again, Luke kissing a girl would just make me laugh.

And I'm actually not too concerned about Noah hiding his orientation from Ameera as long as he's not hiding it from the audience.

Who knows, in some crazy way, if Noah "confides in the viewers" over some secret, as long as he has Luke's welfare first in his thoughts, sharing a secret with Noah might somehow lift him up a bit with the viewers?

I learned my lesson with the "Noah moves in" day, the spoilers didn't make it seem like it would have plausability but the way it played out made it work. Maybe they will take something else that seems like it couldn't work, and play it out again somehow. And I have to say it, given the continuity and the care taken to explain things over the last few days, I find myself building some faith in whoever is writing it lately. I hope people who only watch certain stories will give their off-days, and other stories, a try - especially next week, it's looking overall like a really great week next week !!
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I think Anthony may be on to something.... If Luke doesn't trust Ameera, I could see him asking Noah not to share with her the fact they are gay and together. This way they can work "together" to find out what she may be hinding? Would the fans handle it better if it's Luke's idea to keep their relationship a secret?

:pissed: Do you know I really hate the fact that so many people (not here of course) are already complaining about this storyline before it's even begun. That really ticks me off. Anything is better then seeing Nuke only 1 day a week. Geeezzz.... There I said it!!

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Jan 31 2008, 10:13 AM
I think Anthony may be on to something....  If Luke doesn't trust Ameera, I could see him asking Noah not to share with her the fact they are gay and together.  This way they can work "together" to find out what she may be hinding?  Would the fans handle it better if it's Luke's idea to keep their relationship a secret? 

:pissed: Do you know I really hate the fact that so many people (not here of course) are already complaining about this storyline before it's even begun.  That really ticks me off.  Anything is better then seeing Nuke only 1 day a week.  Geeezzz....    There I said it!!

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Definitely. This would be Luke and Noah without a secret between them, it would be Luke's idea (and because of this more acceptable to some) .

Lately, "Luke and Noah on the same side of farm life" is what we've been getting, and I think "Luke and Noah on the same side of a conflict with a common goal" would stand a pretty decent chance of helping the viewers on the Noah fence to jump off and land on the good side. If they do "Luke and Noah misinformed thinking they're on opposite sides but they really aren't", they'd better choose their story very meticulously. If they do "Noah screwed up" in any way, shape, or form - then uh-oh. I have complete faith that they will NOT go anywhere near there.
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