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Showing Emotions Or Not
Topic Started: Jan 30 2008, 03:10 PM (475 Views)
Violette
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LoTr1985
Feb 1 2008, 09:18 PM
na00na
Feb 1 2008, 01:56 AM
Violette
Feb 1 2008, 08:04 AM
Rachel, I can totally see your point and where you're coming from.  But try to understand that for bubbles and I, who are Luke fans and have been for a long time, it's become kind of a touchy issue.  When Noah came along, and got all this publicity and the couple became so popular, it was almost as though Luke and Noah became a package deal.  We feel as though it's difficult to be a fan of Luke or Van without being forced to acknowledge the greatness of Noah and Jake, even if we don't see it. 


I have only started watching the Luke and Noah s/l from Nov 2007 and I've become a Van/Luke fan. I like the story and hope it will develop further, but I am only a Van fan. I am with Violette and bubbles, it is as if you can't criticize Jake but strangely enough, Van is heavily criticized on his own fanboard by some members. When he's expressive, he is OTT, when Jake is emotionless, he is subtle.

I don't think you've seen me post enough to know whether or not I can't criticize Jake (which for the record I have, on quite a few occassions). I'm not going to explain myself again when you've just jumped into the convo.

And Violette, my entire point is that if you want to heart Van, that's fine. But don't expect ppl who are actually okay w/ Jake and/or Noah not to say something when you put out there that you don't like them. It doesn't matter if this is a board for Jake or not. You throw yourself out there like that, expect a reaction. You can't have it both ways...you get to heart Van, you get to dislike Jake/Noah (contradicting yourself in the process), and not expect anybody to say "hey, wait a minute, I don't agree" and actually have valid reasons why they don't agree. If you can't defend yourself or your argument about why you don't like him, perhaps there's room for examination of your reasoning to begin with.

I can stand behind whatever I say, no matter where I post it, because I actually think about it. If you don't want to be challenged with a statement like "I don't like him" don't put it out there.

Actually, Rachel, I have no problem with you defending Jake or dissing Van, I originally just made the observation that you seem to criticize Van and Luke more than most people, and I got the impression that you didn't like them. Feel free to say whatever you want about Van, or anyone else, I'm not going to stop you.

And I can defend my argument as to why I don't like Noah. He's boring, wooden, and underdeveloped, and the character comes across to me as straight when I know he's not supposed to be. I hated the way he virtually sexually assaulted Maddie when Luke was in the hospital. I'm not a huge fan of Jake's line delivery, for the most part. All these things make me not want to see his character developed or given a storyline by himself. However, when and if he is developed, I could be swayed to change my mind. But due to the state of the character and the way he was introduced and developed so far, I'm not interested in seeing that happen.
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As i said before i like Jake i think he a good actor. after the murder plan agains Luke, Jp did not want to develope a story line after the destorying of Noah.
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