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| Noah's Ily | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 7 2008, 07:49 PM (209 Views) | |
| bubbles | Mar 7 2008, 07:49 PM Post #1 |
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I didn't mind it but I didn't tear up either. It was missing something for me. I cried when Luke said it at Christmas. Don't get me wrong , I'm happy he said it but I thought it would affect me more since I've been waiting so long for it. It was anti-climatic for me. |
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| AnthonyL | Mar 7 2008, 07:55 PM Post #2 |
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Admittedly, it would've meant so much more under different circumstances, but I still thought it was powerful moment. And even then you could see it was hard for Noah to say it. He meant it... but it was hard for him. I think both boys were good, but Van was really good. The scene where Noah told him about the idea just killed me. He does so much with a look. The expression on his face was just heartbreaking. |
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| Longtime | Mar 7 2008, 07:57 PM Post #3 |
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The way it hit me is, the show made Luke's be one of those "payoff moments" on the show, and making it like that set expectations for Noah's to be the same, and they didn't play his as a "payoff moment" like they did Luke's. The way it was designed though I thought Jake did a fine job handling it. |
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| bubbles | Mar 7 2008, 07:57 PM Post #4 |
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I don't know if it was the circumstances or not. But I just didn't *feel* anything. I enjoyed the scene though. It's just weird for me as a very emotional person to not feel something. Maybe because my eyes were more on Van/Luke today. I couldn't take my eyes off of his eyes, Such a powerful performance. Just WOW! |
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| AnthonyL | Mar 7 2008, 07:59 PM Post #5 |
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Van was amazing. I think he's going to turn in some of his best stuff if today is any indication of how the story is going to unfold. Because like Lily and Holden said, they have NO idea what they are getting into. |
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| bubbles | Mar 7 2008, 08:07 PM Post #6 |
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Oh yeah, totally. I'm excited about this storyline even if there are so many holes in it. This is going to be Van's shining moments. I mean the wedding?!! My goodness will have me in tears. I was happy that my boy Luke finally got someone to tell him he loved him . He deserved that much. |
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| Longtime | Mar 7 2008, 11:06 PM Post #7 |
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Shallow note: Even though I posted here some, I only just now took notice of the title of the topic - Noah's Ily - but I did a double take because for a second it looked like it was "Noah's Fly." :lol: |
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| na00na | Mar 8 2008, 12:01 AM Post #8 |
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Like what bubbles said on the other forum, the ILY sounded manipulative to me. I never have much problem with the Noah character or this storyline, but today's episode did it for me. To be quite honest, at this point, it's the anticipation that Van will turn in amazing performances that keeps me from quitting it altogether. I really hope the plot will improve from here, but I just don't know how can they solve this sham marriage within a short time. Are we going to see this until Ameera gets her residency/citizenship? This is getting beyond stupidity. |
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| Longtime | Mar 8 2008, 12:05 AM Post #9 |
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I saw it differently, because Luke is the one who asked him point blank, and Noah had to either say yes, no, or the usual "don't say it"....and his honest feelings are yes, so he said a most sincere yes. Anything but would have been deplorable, to me anyway. I also believe that since the show was written to have Luke ask him, vs. having Noah just say it, that was their attempt to try to avoid having Noah seem manipulative, because that's not what they were going for. But of course, whether it worked or not is up to the individual viewer. |
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| AnthonyL | Mar 8 2008, 12:07 AM Post #10 |
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I'm not sure if I agree simply because Luke asked if Noah loved him. Noah didn't offer it. If Noah had of tossed that in, it would've been different, but Luke asked Noah how he felt and Noah told him the truth. I don't think it was manipulative at all. Besides, that's not Noah's style, is it? I've never found him emotionally manipulative. I don't know how long the marriage with last, but it seems like it's not going to be quick solution. I have a feeling we're in for the long haul just by the way it's playing so far. I think these kids are going to find themselves trapped in an impossible situation and not know how to get out of it. |
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| na00na | Mar 8 2008, 12:43 AM Post #11 |
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I guess I look at it differently. I don't doubt Noah loves Luke. But he should be able to say it without being prompted by Luke, and under other different circumstances. If Luke hadn't asked him and just agreed to his plan, Noah wouldn't even have to tell Luke that he loves him at all. I know a lot of people are thrilled that Noah was finally able to say these 3 words, but I just didn't feel the excitement about it. |
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| AnthonyL | Mar 8 2008, 12:52 AM Post #12 |
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Well, I would prefer better circumstances as well and I certainly didn't like that it took this to get Noah to assure Luke how he feels. And I'd guess Luke would rather Noah just tell him out he feels independent of anything else. But that's not who Noah is. Even then it was hard for Noah to tell Luke how he felt. It's not ideal, but it is how someone like Noah would be regarding his feelings. And Luke accepts and loves him anyway. The thing is, and that's what the discussion was, was if it was manipulative and I don't think it was and it certainly didn't play that way. Whether Noah should be able to articulate his feelings is another issue altogether, separate from this, IMO. |
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| bubbles | Mar 8 2008, 12:55 AM Post #13 |
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While I don't think Noah used the ILY to manipulate he was being manipulative today. When he went up to Luke , when Luke's back was to him, he was saying stuff about saving a life and telling Luke it's worth it. He was laying it on thick. So to act like Noah hasn't played with people's emotions before is dead wrong. He did it all summer and he can easily manipulate if he has to. |
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| AnthonyL | Mar 8 2008, 12:58 AM Post #14 |
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You know you're right about Noah being emotionally manipulative. I guess I kinda forgot what he did last summer. You could have a point. |
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| Longtime | Mar 8 2008, 01:01 AM Post #15 |
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He can be - but the difference to me is, last year it was all about saving his own skin, and this year he's doing it for more noble reasons. But the tragedy is, they both hurt Luke. And Luke's pain is, for me, a great reason to want to see this story (because they will all do a great job) instead of a reason to tune out. |
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