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Topic Started: Jul 7 2008, 08:18 PM (143 Views)
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Jul 8 2008, 12:02 AM
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- Jul 7 2008, 08:18 PM
That's what I said at the end of today's episode with the boys. I think the hug and the look on Noah's face of contentment and satisfaction was just about perfect. It was a nice close to this plot arc. Absolutely. A friend and I were discussing that a new Noah Mayer was born today and that ended this arc perfectly. Now I'm looking forward to how Luke and Noah deal with their new couple status as the emotional intimacy and I'm sure the physical intimacy will be new challenges for Van and Jake.
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Jul 8 2008, 12:04 AM
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Loved your post, LT. It's nice to know that some people who watched actually GOT IT! (sigh of relief and contentment);)
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Jul 8 2008, 12:08 AM
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- Jul 8 2008, 12:04 AM
Loved your post, LT. It's nice to know that some people who watched actually GOT IT! (sigh of relief and contentment);) thanks ! :-)
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Jul 8 2008, 03:48 AM
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Your post was great, LT. You really hit the nail on the head. And what gets me is how many people didn't GET it. The whole point was for Noah to realize who he is and want he wants. He still has to figure out some things, but the one thing he does know is that he wants Luke to be there by his side no matter what. I can't believe no one got it. And what really bothered me were the complaints about the ending. The ending, IMO, was PERFECT. You didn't need a long explanation or a kiss. What we got was a warm and comforting and loving hug and that was what was needed. It was romantic and loving in a way that was needed. The show knows they needed to have Noah and to have Luke and Noah in a certain place by the end of this and that's what they did. And it couldn't drag out much longer... after all, their new story starts next week! LOL!
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Jul 8 2008, 12:01 PM
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LT you know how i feel about your post but I will say it again. It was beautiful and well written. and you hit some major points. You are always able to see things i didn't see. I will admit I don't see those kinds of things because I don't look to get that deep with my soaps.
I just hope the writers remember that they showed growth with Noah.
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Jul 8 2008, 02:24 PM
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LT you know how i feel about your post but I will say it again. It was beautiful and well written. and you hit some major points. You are always able to see things i didn't see. I will admit I don't see those kinds of things because I don't look to get that deep with my soaps.
I just hope the writers remember that they showed growth with Noah. Thanks, it means a lot that you said that.
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Jul 8 2008, 08:56 PM
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I haven't said my piece yet....and although I haven't done extensive reading to find out other people's thoughts, I have so far seen no posts whatsoever from anyone who really, really got what just happened today. If someone before me has said this, please accept my apology for not being aware of it. But people, today was significant...and I really, really hope the writers have complete and utter understanding that what they did to Noah today should be irrevocable....at least it had better be. Today was judgement day for Noah Mayer. And he passed with flying colors.
Luke comes along, and puts up with lost, confused Noah one last time, for good measure...because a good soap has to start out that way. Then, the recruiters come in, and Luke is....well, Luke....totally honest. He didn't volunteer any information, but when he was asked, he spoke the truth. Just like he did with the Maddie thing last summer. He volunteered nothing, but when asked point blank, Luke Snyder puts the honest truth right between one's eyes. And last summer, when Luke outed Noah without a word, Noah went from shocked at this, to angry, to realizing eventually that Luke was right. This time, Noah skipped the angry part, and went immediately from shocked, to understanding...because again, he knew that Luke spoke nothing but the truth, and that Luke was right, and because Noah deep down knows that he's about to make a mistake. But still, it wasn't enough yet to make Noah change his mind, he was joining the army to find out who he was. Because he honestly didn't know. And so, he leaves Luke behind. And I'm glad, because Noah's epiphany needs to come from within Noah, and Noah alone.....he needs to do the right thing for HIMSELF, and not for or because of anyone else. So having Noah leave Luke in that limo was the right thing.
I'm very glad that they took Luke out of the picture long enough for Noah to be totally alone, for his own personal judgement day. The officer asked him tons of questions about what he has done....but none about who he was. When given one last chance, the first thing out of Noah's mouth was that he was gay....and that's one part of who he is. The one part that apparently, he's sure of. He realized today that he does know some part of who he is, and that LUKE is the one who taught him. Not the army. Not his dad. Luke.
So, Noah is in the army to find out who he is.....but all they cared about is what he does. Actions are the only things in the army that are going to matter. Just like Winston told him his whole life. So when Noah told them who he is, and saw that they didn't care......he started to question his desire to be there. If he's there to find out who he is, and all they care about is what he does.....then how is he going to ever figure out who he is there? Same for Winston....if Winston only cared about what Noah does, it's no wonder that he doesn't know who he is. I think Noah realized today not only the impossibility of finding himself in the army, but also of the impossibility of ever having found his true self with his father. He sat there, admitted it, with no remorse, no looking down, only looking up and ahead.....and found out that to stay there to "find out who he is" meant he would be forced to hide who he is. I'm glad Noah was alone for this judgement day on himself, because it was made perfectly clear that he came to his OWN decision, and put himself and what HE wants first, all by himself. The words "It's not who I am" were the turning point in the life of Noah Mayer.
I think Noah realized today the only time in his life that anyone EVER cared about who he is, as opposed to what he does.....is the time spent with Luke. And it follows, that the only person to teach him who he is....is Luke. So he went running home.
The writers had very well better reaiize that they have changed Noah, for the good, forever....and he needs to be seen going slowly forward, not backward, from now on. If Noah reverts to old Noah, it will be a huge , huge mistake on the part of the show.
Whoever thinks today's episode was lame, and pointless, and rushed, and insignificant, maybe should go back now, and watch it again, and realize that Noah Mayer was born today.
i'm going to post this on the ATWT main board.. hope you don't mind.. well it looks like Clint put it up over there..
Edited by CodeNuke, Jul 8 2008, 10:25 PM.
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 Luke & Noah Fan thread Jake Silbermann/ Noah Fans - aka Jake party thread for ATWT main board. Van Hansis/Luke Fan thread
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Jul 8 2008, 09:54 PM
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Absolutely do not mind ... I'm honored that you think it's worth it.
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Jul 8 2008, 10:26 PM
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Absolutely do not mind ... I'm honored that you think it's worth it.
thank for leting me know that.. it looks like Clint bet me to the punch by posting it there already..
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