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On Eternal Patrol; GATO Class Submarine
Topic Started: Apr 3 2017, 06:55 AM (1,386 Views)
blainecole
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Since I'm not getting any younger, I have chosen this year to begin a long-term project. I will be building the Revell 1:72 GATO Submarine.

The kit was presented to me as a retirement gift from my last USN Reserve unit. I have been researching and gathering information over the past three years. Now it's time to start working. I will be building this kit to honor and remember those sailors and ships who remain On Eternal Patrol. When completed, I will offer the kit as a donation to an appropriate group ie a USSVI chapter, Navy submarine base or command, or veterans group.

The GATO Class presents many interesting challenges. The boats underwent many modifications during the war. Thus, it is fair to say that no two are alike. The Revell kit is well made, but it does present some limitations. Those limitations come in the form of topside weapons configurations, sail/conning tower configuration, and the bow and stern torpedo shutters to name a few. With all the research I have completed so far, I have yet to decide on the actual boat name and hull number I will be modelling.

I will be adding many details to the Revell kit, namely the Big ED photo etch set from Eduard, resin figures from CMK, and brass screws from G-Factor Models. Also, I have been pursuing the possibility of adding other details and accessories, but am unsure as to whether some of the companies are reputable, or if indeed they are still in business.

In any event, here is what I am starting with;

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blainecole
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I will begin work on the sail/conning tower. In my search for resources and information, I have found many helpful sources. Here is a partial listing;

On Eternal Patrol; dedicated to all those lost serving in US submarines. http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/

Researcher at Large; an excellent source for painting and counter-shading of WWII submarines. http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/SS/1944JulySSCamouflage.html

Navsource Naval History; an excellent collection of photographs and historical information on US Navy ships. http://www.navsource.org/

A Visual Guide to the US Fleet Submarines; a three-part series that is proving indispensable in selecting a submarine which I can accurately model. www.navsource.org/archives/08/pdf/0821212.pdf
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mac1677
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Lt Mac 'Shocker' McSheffrey
Super project Blaine, and whichever group you decide to donate it to will get a fantastic presentation piece :cool
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Olde Farte
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Lt. Derek 'Smurfy' Reeve
The very best of luck with this Blaine as it's a very worthy project and one I will follow, avidly.
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"BEAVER"
I applaud and appreciate the sentiments behind this build, and look forward to following your progress.

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Lt. Ken 'Albatros' Jeffrey
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Lt. Paul 'Red Dog' Rose
this looks a great project
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Mark M
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Hawk T1
i build the german one last year and loved the change, i look forward to watching this progress
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Lt Paddy 'Chancer' Boyle
Looking forward to what's bound to be an impressive build
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blainecole
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Cheers everyone and many thanks for your words of encouragement.

I will start by constructing the fairwaters(sail); and herein lies the first issue to resolve. The GATO class boats underwent many changes during the war. One area that received many different modifications was the fairwaters. There are no less than eight distinct mods. That does not include some unique one-off mods. The model kit comes standard with what appears to be a MOD 4 fairwater. For the time being, that narrows the candidates down to USS BONEFISH SS-223, USS WAHOO SS-238, USS DORADO SS-248, USS HARDER SS-257, and USS ROBALO SS-273(Shown in order below).

This is based on my interpretation of "A Visual Guide to the US Fleet Submarines" by D.L. Johnston.

The alternative is to purchase(if available), or scratch-build a fairwater that would represent another boat.

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Mark M
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the place to go for 'extras' is white ensign models

https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/product-search/gato/1/
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blainecole
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Cheers for that Mark. I have been monitoring their site waiting for new stock to arrive.
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LCDR Paul "Voodoo" Carter
You have to go for USS Wahoo, just for the name!!
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blainecole
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Paul; I trust you will not be disappointed.

After more research, I have again narrowed down the selection process. Photographs are often few and far between. This makes it much more difficult to match an actual boat to the one depicted by the Revell kit. I have spent this week poring over hundreds of pages of war patrol reports. These provided valuable information on the modifications made to individual boats. Based on this research, I have chosen to build a model of USS GROWLER SS-215. GROWLER was assigned to USSV Hawaii, which is also the location of my last Reserve unit. I am still searching for more photographs, but based on written records, I now believe I can build an accurate representation of GROWLER. The primary sources I used for my research are; https://maritime.org/doc/subreports.htm
and http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/04idx.htm
Also, I am contacting some specialty parts makers stateside for some accessories that will more accurately depict GROWLER. If any of our members have had dealings with the following companies, your input would be most welcome.

Accurate Model Parts http://amp.rokket.biz/index.shtml
Iron Bottom Sound/East Coast Armory http://ibs.eastcoastarmory.com/index.htm
Nautilus Models http://nautilusmodels.com/

A photograph of USS GROWLER in May of 1943. She would receive her final modifications in July of 1944.
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going to watch this
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